If "Game" doesn't work, then what does?

bluescrew · 2019-05-25T11:55:54+00:00

To get laid quick and get it out of the way: lower your standards or hire an escort.

To stop letting the fear of virginity ruin your life: realize that it's other men who are making you feel this way, not women. Other men whose approval you are seeking. Who gives a fuck how they measure your worth.

Also men lose theirs later than women, but sometimes that's because women get raped, abused, or pressured into sex too early by older men. Don't envy those women.

Most of the men I know lost theirs in their 20s. I personally took 2 guys virginities when I was early 20s. It wasn't a big deal.

WonderfulDorothyOfOz · 2019-05-25T11:26:19+00:00

"game" doesn't work, then what does?

"Game" is just re-packaged manipulation. If you look up the actions of game and an abusive relationship, you'll see many many similarities. Stockholm Syndrome-ing a girl is how they're able to continue that game, but it'll bite them in the ass eventually. Dealing with your mental health issues, dressing decently, taking good care of body hygiene and all that isn't new and wasn't developed by TRP. Minus the abusive behavior, doing the latter is a good way to seem desirable to the opposite sex. Not being a douche will help with the rest. Go with the flow.

When they talk of women, they speak of them as if they have agency and are actually humans, not killer robots that we are at war with.

Because we are humans with agency. :)

Or how do I at least drop the insecurity that EVERYONE my age except me is having sex?

This is social lies and your anxiety speaking. Before losing your virginity, there's like this dumb mental block people have, afterward, you're like, 'okay, that's not so bad' and the confidence tends to build naturally because now there's no 'fear of the unknown'. Hire an escort if you need, but that nervousness and fear does go away.

[deleted] · 2019-05-25T12:09:22+00:00

“Models” by Mark Manson. Read it.

It’s not that “game” doesn’t work, it’s that it is manipulative, and yields only short term results that ultimately always end in you being rejected because it’s only possible to hold a facade for so long.

dusara217 · 2019-05-26T01:18:34+00:00

What makes you think Game doesn't work? "Game" is simply the name given to how men seek out sex with women. Some guys do so like sociopaths, some men don't.

You don't have to be a PUA or a Red-Piller to learn how to have "Game." Just look at a dating expert like Dave Perrota, who analyzed men that got laid a lot, copied what they were doing, and now makes a living teaching guys how to flirt and get laid. There's nothing nefarious or "pickup-artisty" about the Game that he teaches - it's simply having social awareness and understanding how to have fun with a woman.

Or look at somebody line Charlie Houpert. He's somebody that did something quite similar, except he prioritized Charisma in general. His version of "Game" is adopting the habits of a Charismatic person in order to acquire the Charisma necessary to date and get laid. He doesn't teach Game, he teaches Charisma, but that doesn't change the fact that that we all have some version of Game - it's just the label attached to a man's attempts at getting laid.

trollinturtle · 2019-05-28T18:06:34+00:00

Game does work but it's the good Game, don't invest too much in it just have fun

CountVP · 2019-05-30T12:33:55+00:00

Game in the sense that there are strict rules you should abide by to get laid doesnt work.

What does work is being charismatic and knowing what to say and when to say it. Get better at socializing, talking to people, and dressing for the ocasion. Extressing the last part becausen dressing well doesnt impress at a EDM festival. Dressing like a rapper wont impress at a high society party. Using a suit wont impress at a stonner party. Context matters. First impressions matter. No one will talk to you because they look at your soul.

Its that simple. Get dessed for the occasion, be charismatic, and know what is appropriate to say depending on your sorroundings. Those are the three things that matter

The rest is up to lady luck

And on a side note: im from a country where prostituton is legal. IT BLOWS. those women treat you like shit. My worst sexual experiences have been with 80 dollar insanely hot prostitutes.

bright-morningstar · 2019-06-01T09:11:33+00:00

You need to do self-improvement, that is the game, game is the character, who you become, when you feel strength in your self and abilities, that is game nothing can stands against that, red-pill recognizes what works and tries to manipulate more into that. But in its basics red-pill is right. Looks, your character, your way of thinking. Let me tell you this, even if you don't do any kind of conscious manipulation in your interactions, if you work on yourself, and be confident in yourself whether with your accomplishments in your life or from some other thing, you will see how you interact changes by natural. So even if you don't manipulate anyone consciously, your actions and the way you look at things change when you support the Self with right materials. When you lift, dress good, take care of your mind, and have a purpose, these things biologically change your mindset and that mindset is what attracts women. This is the red-pill in it's raw. You don't manipulate anyone. You basically change your self-image by your biology and that attracts women.

BMXTKD · 2019-06-01T18:17:17+00:00

"Game theory" only works on women who have some sort of personality disorder or some untreated mental condition.

LickitySplyt · 2019-06-03T00:04:18+00:00

Being honest and upfront about your feelings and hoping you look good enough for her to ignore how retarded that is...lol

Kratz177 · 2019-06-06T22:58:29+00:00

I've been in this for 10 years.

I've done it all PUA, Social Circle, Escorts, Brothels, Stripclubs. Date multiple girls, being in open relationsihps. Lived in the USA, Europe and Latin America.

First of most of the advice here is well intentioned but wrong. 90% guys won't succeed at this. Instead, they'll go deeper into the forums and become more and more nihilistic.

Here my advice, for your specific case:

1-Go to a stripclub. Even if you don't like it and feel uncomfortable at first.

2-Start frequenting the stripclub, get lapdances, talk with the girls, get familiar.

3-See what makes sense to you and what do you want to get. Do you want to sleep with the girls? Lose your fear of talking to girls? Learn to make more friends?

Your case isn't unique but I can tell you can fall into a hole and it will take you years to get out, unless you take the necessary action. This advice wasn't given to me but I had to earn it through years of mistakes.

legable · 2019-06-17T21:23:33+00:00

Honesty. No, not "honesty". But real, true, deeply authentic honesty. Try reading “Models” by Mark Manson.

Chaz_m1398 · 2019-09-22T02:39:28+00:00

Honestly, I’m a woman and I’ve been in the same kind of situation. Don’t worry about your virginity, there’s bee people out in the world that have been virgins till well into their mid 20’s, I didn’t lose mine till I was 19 and I’ve gotta say it was the most awkward sex I’ve ever had in my entire life, and I mostly feel that’s because I wasn’t sure about the relationship anyway (turns out the reason I wasn’t is because I’m a full blown dyke and thought that my random crushes on women were just friendly adoration or something like that).

I suggest working on yourself before thinking of relationships or sex, work on your insecurities, think more positively of yourself, write your feelings in a journal, figure out what it is you want to fix the most and start from that. (when I was going through a really bad bout of anxiety and self esteem issues I’d go for a walk every morning at sun rise, sit and watch the clouds and it always helped me gather my thoughts together) if there’s an issue that you can fix, then fix it! (Feel like you’re too skinny? Hit the gym! Got acne? Better skincare products! Anything you can and want to fix, fix it!) any issue you have that can’t be fixed, find ways to accept it, and move on. Things will get better, life IS short, but it’s also awfully, and insufferably long at the same time, so do what you can and work at yourself before anything. Cos how can someone love you if you don’t love yourself? Even the most objectively ugly guys are automatically attractive with good confidence and positive outlooks. Girls dig a man that is sure of himself and the things he wants in life, just like any man would find a motivated and mature woman attractive.

jasonfrank403 · 2019-05-25T11:29:07+00:00

Really, the only things you need to do to get laid is to look your very best (good physique, hair, skincare etc) and to talk to as many women as possible. One of them is bound to give you chance as long as you've looksmaxxed and aren't too socially awkward

FlexForJesus · 2019-05-25T13:07:18+00:00

For the purposes of just getting laid, without getting a serious relationship into the mix - game definitely works. You don't need the red pill to game girls. It's a skill that you learn through practice and I'll repeat, if you just want to get laid it works.

cuckspace · 2019-05-25T13:27:27+00:00

Game does work. It can make a beta male look and sound like an alpha. That's why most women hate it. They just want the real alphas and don't want to be tricked. Game does the same for men as makeup and high heels does for women.

Title	If "Game" doesn't work, then what does?
Author	iiOgetsu
Upvotes	19
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Date	May 25, 2019 11:03 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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