Incel Science?

Technusgirl · 2022-07-01T08:22:58+00:00

Just looking at a couple of these, for instance, women having fantasies of rape. That's just a fantasy, it doesn't mean we want it in real life. After having been raped myself, I used to have fantasies like that too, but I don't after it actually happened to me. But these fantasies usually involved men I would find attractive and wasn't really technically rape if you think about it.

And what do rape fantasies have to do with anything other than incels hoping to justify raping women?

Women being attractive to psychopaths.. Psychopaths are typically charismatic, driven and seem to have themselves together. This is of course a facade. Of course these particular traits are going to be attractive. The traits that are not attractive are their sadistic and manipulative nature.

RedPillDetox · 2022-07-01T09:02:53+00:00

We got a shit ton of Scientific papers disproving plenty of pill shit here, besides here's a few takes on the last time we spoke about the Black Pill Science sub:

Most studies in psychology are actually bullshit. There is indeed a massive so called "Replication Crisis" within psychology. Look it up. In 2015 a team of psychologists attempted to replicate psychology studies and found that over 60% did not replicate. I have master in Psychology and i can confirm. Usually, the "sexiest" the theory, the more likely it is to not replicate. Shit like "power posing", "ovulatory cycle shifts" and so forth give great knowledge to impress friends... and also great bullshit. So take most studies there with a grain of salt.
Most of these guys don't even understand basic statistics concepts. They always fail to analyze the statistics in the results section. Once you get to analyze the effect size or the percentage of variance that explains the behavior, you'd get a more complete picture of a study... and often get a much different view of the conclusions of the study than you'd get by merely reading the article. Most studies in psychology have small effect sizes of .20 and less (ex.: Most gender differences). So next time you'd read that women tend to score higher on emotionality or some shit, chances are that the average difference is small, yet merely giving it a superficial read would have think that the difference is actually that robust. These guys always fail to account that.
A lot of this shit is cherry picked, the first study i saw in there quotes authors i've seen posting opposite research to what they said.
Sometimes the studies in there are just outright intellectual dishonesty. There's a study there saying violent kids are prefered for hook ups. The way they worded it, they make it seem like girls prefer to hook up with violent kids over non-violent kids. In reality the studies adresses that girls prefer to hook up with violent kids over having stable relationship with them. It never said they go for violent kids over non-violent when it comes to hook up. They never compared the preferences between the two kids, in terms of who's most liked for either relationships or hook ups.
I find it really ironic, if not just plain stupid, that these guys are relying on studies that are 95% self-reported (like the overwhelming majority of psychology studies) when they are really so vocal about "WoMeen DunT Knaw wUT dey Want" and "Lo0k wut Dey doo, nawT WuT dey Seey"

WhoDoomsTheDoomer · 2022-07-01T08:00:16+00:00

Science should be free of bias and agenda. I highly doubt that 'incel science' is at all. Think about it, what does an incel most want to prove? That he's right, so he's only going to pay attention to studies that indicate that he's right. How many studies are there that prove incel ponts wrong, do you think you'd find them on that wiki?

Personally I just don't really believe in studies or statistics. Why would I blindly trust a bunch of numbers written down by someone I've never met? That's foolish, and whose to say they don't also have an agenda

thepowerelite · 2022-07-01T08:50:16+00:00

The beauty about modern science is the ability to find contradictory data that matches one's cognitive bias: https://en.incelwiki.org/Scientific_Anti-Blackpill

Brilliant_Guava_9646 · 2022-07-02T02:33:52+00:00

Are you trying to justify rape???????

Sudden-Freedom3737 · 2022-07-01T19:10:09+00:00

All of that is making excuses and not putting in the work necessary to be successful in relationships. Relationships are hard and some people will naturally have a head start. So what?

UnusualLingonberry14 · 2022-07-02T17:26:49+00:00

I think the studies may be legitimate, but not the conclusions embodied in the wiki. I've also sometimes been willing to read the studies there and find that these guys only tell part of the story or don't bother to read what they are citing. A while back, they were citing Provenzano, 2017, for example. The study said bullies were more sexually successful. But I read the study and it referred to female bullies having more success with men. There are also some studies out there that supposedly conclude that male criminals are more sexually successful, but as I recall, it was also the other way around: female criminals were more successful. Also studies that usually conclude that women like narcissists, also conclude that psychopathic women are more successful with men and have more partner retention. But of course, that is roundly passes. Also, I don't remember if on incelwiki or manosphere, but they usually use a study that says that women in rapes experience orgasm 97% of the time. The study doesn't exist and the percentage is minimal, and, of course, that doesn't mean that women enjoy being raped.

Edit: last time I checked the wiki, the Provenzano study was gone. Which could be seen as an encouragement to rectify errors. But also to me it is a sign that they are unwilling to consider information contrary to their own.

UnusualLingonberry14 · 2022-07-08T18:27:40+00:00

Following up on my previous comment: They also cite a study that supposedly shows that misogynistic men are more sexually successful. I wasted my time reading the study: sexually benevolent men were the most sexually successful. That's right, the "Simps who put pussy on a pedestal" had more sex. It's a waste of time that wiki, and its advocates are full of shit.

Title	Incel Science?
Author	worriedwalt22
Upvotes	5
Comments	12
Date	July 1, 2022 7:24 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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