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Jalakee · 2019-04-12T13:02:53+00:00

The important thing to understand is that the "truths" of the RP have been distorted and extrapolated over the years.

Hypergamy, for example, is a real phenomenon. It's been described in the animal kingdom for decades, and it's also described in human females. All it means is that women have a tendency to mate across and up dominance hierarchies. This is not ground-breaking news---but it's an important concept to understand.

It does NOT mean your girl is perpetually on the hunt for the bigger better deal. That is a lie of TRP. Yes there are bad apples and you can choose poorly, but if you have an honest understanding of your 'mating' value as a man you can make more intelligent choices.

This sub attracts women I think because there are way more female lurkers on TRP than we think; some of whom used it for their own gain and others out of curiosity or protection.

Part of the problem of RP is that they treat their knowledge as so esoteric. It's like are you that scared? Can you not read people? Ive been around the block enough to know when I'm at risk for getting played. Furthermore, I know when a woman is genuinely interested in me and those are the women I chose to date. Simple philosophy.

And you are 100% right about MGTOW and incels. Never have a seen a group of more pathetic losers who simply want to avoid failure by not playing the game at all.

WonderfulDorothyOfOz · 2019-04-12T13:21:18+00:00

how can you deny some of the most basic truths of RP?

Look up the logical fallacy called "cherry picking", then look up all the signs of a cult. The reason why nobody can deny certain things they say, is because some of the science is accurate, however, it's cherry picked to fit a certain agenda. It's not the whole picture. But that's exactly how they pull you in, and any group that teaches you to mistreat a certain group of people, especially based on their self-admitted "nature", is wrong.

hypergamy means women want the highest value guy her looks can attract.

Again, cherry picked information. Social learning theorists are also saying that women value men with high earning capacity because their own ability to earn is constrained by their disadvantaged status in a male-dominated society, which we've been getting away from for some time. How do you explain the women that choose career over family and make enough to support themselves? There's lots of those women.

or that chasing excellence in your looks

Looks fade. Lots of people know this. Don't go after shallow people and you won't get shallow results.

and money is the best thing you can do to increase your number of dating options

Let's be real, if a dude or girl is broke, or has shitty money skills, he or she doesn't need to be dating. No sex is going to want to pay more than their fair share for long.

or get better looking/ younger girls.

Younger and better looking girls sure do look nice, but they also haven't emotionally matured either and her jokes are still gonna suck. You're likelihood of finding a pretty young thing that has her head on straight is unlikely, but the same goes for men too. Younger = not as much experience. You gain XP by progressing in the storyline and completing missions. Duh. Same goes for life.

for this sub to be EXredpill, it should primarily consist of men who are actually EXredpill. but it isnt.

Do you have a data source on this or is this just another fallacy (missing data) of Red Pill views? I don't remember taking a survey and have seen lots of dudes post here...

incels and MGTOW are both extremely toxic, and RP has zero respect for either of them.

They may not have respect for them, but they're very similar. Confirmation bias fallacy would be another good one for you to look up too. Researching things outside of a bubble is really good for your brain, try it. Maybe use that time to learn instead of breaking women with cherry picked science? Oh, also look up what the silent testament does to a person's brain. Because Red Pill preaches that shit.

cagedtiger999 · 2019-04-12T13:23:43+00:00

That's a lot of questions. A bulletproof answer doesn't really exist.

I would start with saying that the answer is time. People change over time and men and women fall out of love. They cheat, lie and move on. Not all people do this, there are definitely personality traits out there that tend towards stability and others that tend towards chaos. Also hypergamy might be a thing, but it is stronger in some women and weaker in others.

Try to make sure you chose someone that matches/complements you and not someone who is hot. It seems you value young/hot girls very highly. Ask yourself why? It's probably because you see them as a trophy validating yourself. Many men have gone down this route and their relationship has not lasted. (Costly divorce - but this is an MRA issue). You will be happier in the long run with a woman who is more thoughtfully selected. Trust me, this is the best thing in life.

With regards to all the women here, I hope one of them will answer.

MGTOW and Incels are as disfunctional as redpill but probably less likely to cause significant harm to anyone but themselves. Incels can't with women and MGTOW have left the building. Probably being redpill is the worse of the three.

bluescrew · 2019-04-12T13:34:04+00:00

I am a woman subscribed here because it gives me hope to see that some boys and men are able to escape RP brainwashing.

Hypergamy may exist but to parse it strictly in terms of money and looks is misleading and harmful. I do want the BEST man I can have a bond with and make a life with. But money is not how I determine that, and looks are not how I attract him. I value men who are honest, intelligent, chill, capable, able to express their feelings, respect me, and are willing to be vulnerable around me. I use my accomplishments and my personality just as much as my looks to get such men interested in me.

Conversely you could say that men want the "best" woman they can get, whatever that means to them. Married men often cheat when they get a chance at someone younger and hotter, does RP call them hypergamists too?

roguish_rogue · 2019-04-12T14:45:15+00:00

TRP is very "low resolution", it makes wide generalizations and exaggerates real tendencies to an absurd degree. My biggest problem with it is that it leads inexperienced guys to self-sabotage, yes you can improve your life by internalizing some red pill principles to a degree, but you really need to balance it with a healthy dose of "beta" if you want a happy life with a healthy relationship to women, even if you want to "spin plates". I am not against guys getting "game", in fact I think its a very important facet of being a man that most guys neglect, for most guys will be 90% unlearning bad habits, being aware of bodylanguage and learning to flirt for fun. The machiavellian bs that the red pill advocates will not help most guys, since women can smell that shit from a mile away unless you are Ted Bundy, if guys were previously validation seeking pushovers who put women on a pedestal they may feel some improvement after encountering TRP, but misogyny really is a game-killer, the biggest factors for improving mindset to be more attractive is learning to love women and learning to love and respect yourself.

chloapsoap · 2019-04-12T16:24:57+00:00

why are there so many women in this sub? red pill was created for men. period. yes theres a RPwomen but they are not the main RP community. just a small group of women who copied the RP label and regurgitating RP concepts. for this sub to be EXredpill, it should primarily consist of men who are actually EXredpill. but it isnt. theres so many women, including feminists who were never red pilled to begin with. why is that?

Because it’s fascinating to me.

I try not to participate a lot here since I recognize that this isn’t a place for my input, but since you asked...

SHAKIRAISHOT · 2019-04-12T15:01:26+00:00

whats your example of a women choosing a lower value guy over a higher value guy.

Title	questions
Author	SHAKIRAISHOT
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Date	April 12, 2019 11:41 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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