Something I noticed by reviewing a video. Well, I was a watching a video of a dude who is entering to the manosphere. The second half of the video was redpill bs. And the first half was him complaining about misandry and misandrists women on tiktok. Okey, I get it. You are butthurt and get into redpill to feel better or to explain the skanky behaviour of those women. But otherwise, I really don't see much problem. Look, Andrew Tate has million of fans. Redpill bs has been around since decades. And you...feel bad because of a tiktok? Really? I don't get it. There are ton of women in the comments of those videos defending men. But I have never seen once the opposite. And men fighting the manosphere seriously is a new thing. Also, the same guy was like "I don't want to sound like a MGTOW or Redpiller but..." and "Don't misunderstand me, I love women and I think they are the best thing in the world". Yeah, dude, you put women in a pedestal and then you piss off when a woman has an opinion about men that doesn't suits you. So, men put us on a pedestal themselves and then they act pikachu face surprised when we act as people (women can be mean) and to fight the dissonance they adopt the idea that then all women are pieces of shit.

So, men who may enter to the redpill are hurt because of women or of how men are portrayed. They are chronically online, so they believe that a tiktok means something. (And of course, If a woman has standards that is misandry). And they put women on a pedestal instead of seeing us as equals. So we are above or below. No other option. I can see why they might be hurt, but at the same time I can't feel sympathy or pity for them. I can't see them completely as "hurt people".