Thoughts?

TheMadWoodcutter · 2019-08-24T23:24:32+00:00

Didn't take long to find a few different options.

Yes, it's easier to manipulate people if you're a sociopath, particularly emotionally traumatized people with weak support systems.

SHAKIRAISHOT · 2019-08-24T23:48:21+00:00

" However, for men, being nice did not make them more attractive to women.

If anything, being nice had a slightly negative effect on the attractiveness of a man to a woman."

posters bullshit conclusion: " Women like jerks, men like nice girls. "

im not following the logic here, because there is none.

so being a nice guy doesnt positively influence your attractiveness, therefore women like JERKS.

thats hilarious. its like its never occurred to him that colors exist between black and white. different things in life can only be one extreme or the other.

and in the bullying one. the abstract states their hypothesis as bullying may help you get laid basically, and does an experiment and says it provided "SOME SUPPORT fOR OUR HYPOTHESES". like their study literally didnt even confirm anything. posters conclusion: "women prefer bullies". LOL?!?

is this a joke?

and the red pill conclusion is to become DT narcissist who will never care about anyone but himself, and literally become a narcissistic asshole to try and attract more women for sex, who will inevitably be DT themselves or emotionally damaged / hurt from past experiences that may or may not root all the way back to their childhood.

yeah no thanks.

red pill cherry picks "evidence" and heavily exagerates it to extremities. i honestly dont think anyone who buys into this posters claims or red pill in general has an actual life outside of red pill. it doesnt reflect the real world. they just sit in an echo chamber and talk shit about women because it makes them feel better. no they dont understand women. they understand emotionally unhealthy women and paint all women like that.

one hard lesson i had to learn this year is that if you are emotionally unhealthy, YOU WILL BE ATTRACTED TO EMOTIONALLY UNHEALTHY WOMEN AND VISE VERSA.

they need to heal. one active guy in red pill i know of his parents literally died when he was like 13 or something. my dad abused my entire family, even my animals. another guy i knew in red pill said his dad was the same way. pure fucking evil. im willing to bet that most red pill guys had a horrible upbringing like myself. which is what leads them to believe this garbage.

next time, instead of saying "thoughts?", ask an actual question.

thebassoonist06 · 2019-08-25T00:44:08+00:00

Im mostly thinking about why I avoid that sub now. I forgot how toxic it was. It's worse than red pill sometimes, because you have people that just want to argue with usually a high school understanding of study methodologies or how much weight you should put behind findings.

Yesm3can · 2019-08-25T14:25:45+00:00

Women like jerks, men like nice girls.

Except for the barrage of men complaining about 'divorce raped', being cheated on, abused, taken advantage of, etc...etc...

If men have bad partners, they are being 'baited-and-switched' instead of themselves willingly choosing cunts? But if it is women, they are willingly choosing jerks?

See the contradictions here?

LeRedditGentlesir · 2019-08-25T05:19:42+00:00

Women aren't a hivemind. They are people, just like everyone else and thus have their own opinions and likes.
It's not about being nice or an asshole, it's about how fun and confident you seem. Your typical douchebag is loaded with confidence, doesn't give a shit about the rules, and takes risks. "Nice guys" just seem boring (especially when women are younger).
Studies have shown that these are both successful strategies. As in, douchebags sleep around with multiple women and don't usually invest in anyone of the relationships. "Nice guys" build up their status and wealth and settle down with a woman later in life. You see this in nature among almost all animal species.

maxomai · 2019-08-24T21:49:53+00:00

Short answer: [citation needed]

Long answer: this claim is BS. Anyone who actually gets to know women as people realizes that women are not a monolith and every woman has different wants and needs. Some women are drawn to adventuresome types, others to creative types, others to nurturing types, and so on. Some are drawn to sociopaths, sure, but after a while they realize that this is bad for them and they stop.

markyp1234 · 2019-08-24T22:06:27+00:00

Not at all describes the relationships my friends and family are in lol, but this is just an anecdote of mine.

Men themselves are too complex to just fit into the three categories (beta, alpha, omega), so studies like those are like meme statistics to me.

boardgaming234 · 2019-08-29T17:25:34+00:00

I've seen longer lists, and they keep on recycling the same sources. Here's how I see it, this might get long so grab popcorn!

I was the Asian guy back when I was in grade school. I was picked on, thrown, verbally harassed and just generally shit on. No, I had no real friend group. But honestly I was a pretty normal dude(the quiet guy who just wanted to do his own thing), so looking back it was just "pure coincidence" that I happen to be a target since other louder kids were also getting crap. Being the normal guy I was I sought answers for my bullying.

Now many of us won't remember how it was like being in gradeschool, but kids don't come in the same sizes. My bullies were a lot bigger than me and the ones that weren't made up for it in viciousness. No shit, I wasn't going to get into anything physical with them at this point so I asked the teachers and tried the common sense anti bullying advice. As we have probably all experienced, this shit did not work. One notable dude by the name of Mr. Roberts, our vice principle who always stood up like he had a stick up his ass, avoided eye contact as he told me something along the lines of,

"I can't help you sense you do not have any proper evidence of bullying."

I sit here writing this like a robot, but I assure you that I was feeling deep pain and self hatred myself as I was getting bullied. Part of it was the fact that I hated myself for being pathetic enough to not ball up my hands into fists and deliver a knuckle sandwich of the level that it would show up on the Ritcher scale. So I went to my local mma gym and was introduced to the wonderful world of grapplng. And from there I tried to learn everything there is to learn about grappling.

This was in highschool where the bright and prositive people became even brighter, the toxic gnomes became even more toxic, and the emo became even more goth. Basically everyone was solidifying their identity, blah blah. Being one of those special snowflakes with no where to belong to, I became an even bigger target.

So one day while on lunch break I was walking up from the stairway into a computer lab to print out some paper that was due the class after lunch break, some schmuck bumps into me. Now I don't know this kid, but somehow this kid sure as hell knew me from the way he looked at me.

"*sniff*, damn I gotta get rid of this fish smell!"

Suddenly painful memories came flooding back and I just knew who this guy was. He reached to grab my collared shirt, but with 3 years of mma under my belt I dropped low - shot for his leg. Single leg takedown was my goal.

Holy shit that was so fucking easy! I thought to myself. At this point I should have stopped, because what I did next was the stupidest thing I could have imagined. I wish I could say that I want to relive this moment, but the emptiness that came afterwards is soul crushing.

I threw him down the stairs. I picked him up, put him over my shoulder with his torso facing to the sky, and threw him down. And threw him down with UMPHF!

I wish I could say that he deserved it, and that I was in the right. Maybe I was in the right, but I still lost. And I lost because I let him make me do something that was not myself. I lost because I let him affect my emotional state. He provoked me, but I knew many ways of just making him stay on the floor. But I choose to hurt someone.

I still have bullies to this day. I still have people who want to destroy some part of my life. Some of the them are former friends who have betrayed me, family members, people who I used to work with, just to name a few(anything more would be a bit too personal). But the difference is delivering a good headlock throw isn't going to get rid of these bullies. You deal with them by facing them, and you can't let them affect your emotional state or else you have already lost.

This is what I call manning up. Or at least how I manned up. Just don't let things affect you, be the master of yourself. Because no, you can't just make me angry or sad because you want me to be. So what if these men are getting more poon then me? What am I going to do? Try to be something that I'm not?

Sure, I knew women who dated and hooked up with other men but instead of blunty rejecting the "guy friend" they went all like "I'm not ready for that". I know women who unabashedly believe that girls always expend more emotional energy in a relationship with a guy, and a breakup is always worse for her even if they guy is the one investing his finances as well as his time and emotions into the relationship. These same women think that a guy should just be okay with a girl dating during her youth because she doesn't know what she wants and we're all young but when she's ready for the right man - you get the point, we're all exredpill. Point is, women can lack self awareness sometimes. It can get really fucking demeaning and condescending when they're trying to treat TRPs by explaining that "women are people".

When you're in pain like how I was, you don't care about these common sense things like "violence begets violence". It can be really hard for men to express such pain and self hatred when the trait that makes us strong, our stoicism, backfires spectacularly into a downward spiral of depression. All we're really doing is alienating them even more by basically invalidating their pain. Like Mr. Roberts, who basically implied that I wasn't even being bullied, since bullying has to be over the course of a few weeks for it to classified as bullying.

And that's my thoughts. Alpha tindercock could be matching twenty girls a day and I would be happy even if I was single right now jacking off to pornhub. :D

Rant/story over.

Title	Thoughts?
Author	theprivateselect
Upvotes	12
Comments	19
Date	August 24, 2019 8:39 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/ExRedPill
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