What does work and what does not?

sunflowercrown · 2018-05-07T04:08:46+00:00

In my opinion, it depends on what you're looking for. If you're looking to sleep around and score as many times as humanly possible, TRP typically works for that. If you're looking for a committed intimate personal relationship with one woman, stay far away from TRP. We tried it in my personal relationship for all of about two months before it almost emotionally destroyed both of us. It was not healthy.

Lilly077 · 2018-05-07T08:57:37+00:00

I think you should do some thinking and observation of human nature itself. On your own. Another thing is to understand that many of the red pill tactics work when women apply them as well. TRP ignoring this is a massive lie by omission. I think most of toxicity comes from there, men thinking how they need to be doing all that work, and a woman just needs to sit there and be pretty. For getting men to make a first move on her, maybe (but even then not entirely! With bad body language a woman can mess up a lot of chances she has with men making a move on her). But later on, when navigating the dating game, men and women both can play games - with equal success. For example, dread game, abundance mindset and not being attached to the outcome work just the same when women apply it. They also work the same when you apply it to negotiating a business deal, and are probably at the root of all bluffs when playing poker. So you can listen to that youtube stuff, just keep in mind that a female version of that same behavior is going to have a similar effect on a man.

As a woman, I can tell you this much - I have a very hard time falling in love and when I was younger I noticed how the guys I dated were really interested or even in love after just 1 or 2 dates. Then when I did meet someone I'd like, a lot he didn't seem that much into me - but when I'd treat him like he was one of those guys I wasn't in love with, he'd change his tune and become way more interested. If genders were reversed, this would probably be endless material for red pill "field reports". The difference being that I found it a massive turnoff to have to play games with a guy I liked, so I'd just break it off, lol.

But the point is, it's not "female nature", it's human nature. Don't beat yourself up over finding it plausible when you hear it from TRP - just understand it works on men as well, and it works in many different areas of life, not just dating or romance.

fullmoonhermit · 2018-05-07T07:52:34+00:00

Do you know men who wouldn’t remotely fit into the red pill mold of what an alpha is who have wives and girlfriends? Why not ask them how they met and wooed their partners?

madamejesaistout · 2018-05-07T12:05:21+00:00

I recommend The Art of Charm podcast. They recently replaced the host, so I suggest you go back through their archived episodes for conversations on body language and networking and dating.

cyranothe2nd · 2018-05-07T17:58:05+00:00

If you're looking for good places to go for advice on relationships, my first recommendation would be Dr Nerdlove and my second would be Captain Awkward. Both are not red pill and both have really valuable and insightful things to say about relationships and how to maintain relationships and maintain healthy boundaries for yourself.

http://www.doctornerdlove.com/

https://captainawkward.com/

[deleted] · 2018-05-08T21:45:21+00:00

I'd highly recommend going on quora.com and reading some of Franklin Veaux's answers in relationships/love.

JoelBloomSlayer · 2018-05-13T13:31:52+00:00

There are no lies, really, just people taking things to the extreme.

HeloRising · 2018-05-14T19:31:54+00:00

The problem is the "good qualities" are not actually good qualities, they're tied to something a lot worse.

Not being needy

Because these communities value relationships that are dependant. They want to have a relationship with someone who is dependant on them and thus they have to do less emotional labor. That's not a healthy relationship.

over-pursuing which in turn shows value and not creeping them out.

For the purposes of improving their esteem for you so they'll fuck you or undermining their self confidence so they'll fuck you.

Having an abundance mindset were you are willing to leave relationships that don't work out.

Yeah and "relationships that don't work out" is usually defined by these communities as "when she stops putting up with your bullshit."

I am not sure were to turn to look for healthy self-improvement and dating advice.

How do you want to be treated? That's the most basic rule of any sort of interaction; how do you want this person to treat you? Lacking any sort of other baseline, that's a pretty good place to start.

Beyond that, talk to people. Ask straightforward questions, don't throw a temper tantrum if you don't get an answer you like.

This applies hardcore.

Why TF do you need/want role models?

Ryzasu · 2018-05-26T12:33:36+00:00

Youtuber How To Beast in my opinion probably gives the best PUA advice out there. Based Zeus has really good content too. Both are not particularly redpilled.

[deleted] · 2018-05-28T15:03:12+00:00

I am not sure were to turn to look for healthy self-improvement and dating advice.

There is nothing wrong with the trp as to "how to take care of yourself" and I see no conflicting indications that the attributes for attractions are wrong in itself. They proven successful in one dimension.

The task them self not wrong. (Grinding, lifting, clean your room etc)

What if you stripped all the "this how you talk/do" and just look at the "live" stuff trp have some points.

MGTOW is just angry.

I'm with you, it's hard to find useful directions.

Start with lifting. Not to xyz. It's good for you. There's several useful mental things you like about it.

Do diet.

Title	What does work and what does not?
Author	Larshermanb
Upvotes	11
Comments	20
Date	May 7, 2018 12:40 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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