I've noticed "car guys" are lvm. These are guys that are obsessed with cars, go to illegal drag races and car shows, etc. They usually wear tan dickies. Not sure if this is an east coast subculture or if it happens everywhere, but there are a lot of these douchebags in NJ and PA. They suck as men because their main hobby is their car, usually a shit box Subaru that they pour hundreds of dollars into to make that annoying "vroom vroom" noise, spoilers, body kits, etc. They dont have anything else going for them, they are usually short and aren't good at sports, dont have a lot of money so they use their cars as an ego boost but are insecure about themselves. They will always put their car over their girlfriends and wives, causing many fights over wasting their money on making their cars look even more greasy. Like modern day danny zucco from grease. I made the mistake of dating 2 of these losers. Both were from Jersey. Both would not take me out for anything more than fast food. Both were "polyamorous " and tried to get me in threesomes. Ugh I feel gross thinking about this.