2 major reasons why this sub is sometimes called an incel sub

project_mayhem_ · 2019-01-06T06:03:20+00:00

it's coz they think that's what will bother us. for tradcucks, feminists, and everything in between, the unspoken bedrock principle upon which all else is built is that a man's moral value is measured in whether women want to fuck him. this is so deeply ingrained in them that they are unable to conceive of any worldview that does not hold to this. MGTOW is the only viewpoint that does not measure a man's moral quality in this way, and so we need not be bothered by being called incel, or whatever else they come up with.

Slaide · 2019-01-06T06:09:08+00:00

Oh please. Those are the same idiots who label everyone who disagree with them as Nazis or racists. We're talking about people who are so fucking dumb that they believe that a man who is a VOLUNTARY celibate is now an involuntary celibate. That shows you how dumb and petty they are.

A MGTOW will usually back up their refusal to acknowledge women with facts and statistics. Those idiots are usually triggered and base their accusations entirely on emotions and very little facts. Easy to see who's in the wrong.

DangZagnut · 2019-01-06T05:55:18+00:00

You do get a lot of incels wandering through. Oh well.

The narrative is that we're incels. If we post nothing but dog pics, we're incels, so at this point, who gives a fuck anymore?

"It's just a case of mind over matter. I no longer mind, because, they no longer matter."

KhajiitFL · 2019-01-06T05:58:15+00:00

Other services are considering "Incel" to be hate speech now. It's getting pretty funny. That word still only has bearing on blue pilled cucks.

adobogopnik · 2019-01-06T07:05:15+00:00

They can call me, and this sub whatever they want. I don't give a fuck what they think.

Sol_Install · 2019-01-06T06:53:03+00:00

How does anyone reach the conclusion of there being a mass of incels in here.

NightOuts · 2019-01-06T07:09:07+00:00

People know this is not an incel sub (by majority). Incel is their go to shaming tactic, so they will label at as incel cause they don't like it.

Who gives a fuck. I don't get bothered. I've fucked more women than probably 90% of reddit. I know whats up with these bitches.

The ppl who call mgtow "incels" have fucked less than 10 women and been in 1 or 2 relationships. They don't understand.

They have never been the guy that girls cheat on their BFs with. They are the guy on the other end of the phone when the girl at my place tells them that "nightouts" is just a friend.

You live, you realize, you learn.

Very recently, i actually met up with a girl who posts on /r/stupidslutsclub ... coke head hoe from a couple cities away ... we met randomly at a convenience store and talked about reddit. She was in rehab for drugs ... she came to my place ... called her BF, and convinced him that im safe and i wouldnt fuck her, cause im a nice guy.

that same guy (her bf) is the kind of guy who would defend these bitches and argue with people in /r/relationship_advice saying "i love her, i know she'll never cheat on me"

.... having lived a life fucking broads and me having GFs who have raise red flags, i know better.

my grammar may be off in this post

jonathino001 · 2019-01-06T09:44:32+00:00

Because women don't like the idea that men are voluntarily leaving the plantation and decreasing their dating pool, so by calling us all incels they can simultaneously shame us into returning to a blue-pilled lifestyle, or failing that they can convince themselves that we are all of low social market value, and therefore our removal from the dating pool won't hurt them.

And also in the case of particularly attractive women, the idea that any straight man isn't instantly attracted to them crushes their fragile ego. Less attractive women who are accustomed to not being attractive to all men, have therefore had to develop life skills elsewhere in order to be successful. An attractive woman on the other hand has been spoiled by adulation, and therefore relies on her ability to acquire men to be successful.

Additionally, it's just biology. It's natural for pack animals to use shame to force conformity, because conformity is in most cases a good thing for the survival of the species as a whole. Even when non-conformity logically has nothing to do with us, we feel a natural urge to shame it. If seeing someone behaving differently to you has ever bothered you, then you should understand this feeling well.

Disbursed-operant · 2019-01-06T06:20:24+00:00

Just downvote and throw mgtow truth at them when they pull that shit.

Incel is the opposite of mgtow.

Mauzeraut · 2019-01-06T12:19:19+00:00

There has been a shift here, and it has to do with the focus of some of the posts in the sub. There is, in my mind, a huge difference between the two groups, and although it's understandable why incels would gravitate here, they're missing the point. MGTOW is supposed to be man-positive, not woman-negative. Being one does not automatically include the other, nor should it.

MGTOW ideals:
Self-affirmation and determination (being comfortable with choosing your own direction), disillusion of popular rhetoric and hive-think (that you must have a female to have status/happiness, that if you're not a feminist you're a regressive, that marriage is not a skewed contract, etc), devaluation of sex (the act) and sexual politics, valuing gender differences (the biology), recognizing positive masculinity, and sharing wisdom from those who have suffered from skewed societal ideals and policies.

Incel ideals:
All women are whores at heart (yes, even your mother). Your value as a person is entirely based upon your physical attractiveness and income (money and sex are everything). If you're not at least 6' tall you may as well give up. It's women's fault that they don't like me. Elliot Rodger is a hero. Extremists of the group advocate rape as a method of evening the tables (which is the opposite of the devaluation of sex).

One of these is a self-improvement ideal, inward-focused on finding direction and security of self, the other is outward-focused and blames the world for their insurmountable problems. They couldn't be more different, but because MGTOW is largely anti-feminist (specifically third-wave feminist), it's attracting some toxic incel refugees.

Incels could benefit greatly from MGTOW philosophy, but a lot of them are so far gone that they're unable to contribute back.

Fragosus · 2019-01-06T08:07:51+00:00

You'd think the incels would appreciate us reducing their competition.

Stabby66 · 2019-01-06T06:50:00+00:00

words can have power, but only if you allow them to

Demiacus · 2019-01-06T08:51:19+00:00

Well, we're not here to please the mentally challenged. And you get that in large groups. Some just are, sadly.

Thing is subreddits are like gossip groups and I'm sure other subreddits think this subreddit is trash and whatnot.

I think the way to go about it is to just go your own way but also put women's behavior through the magnifying glass, shame them for their horrendous acts that most times go unnoticed or with a simple slap on the wrist. Tell your story about the women in your life and how they were cunts so others know what to watch out for by showing other the warning signs which women know very well how to keep hidden.

Sure, some idiots will take it personally and chose to ignore that people DO get fucked over by their SO's and that does include women being the aggressor or a genuine psycho bitch from hell. And finally escaping that situation being free from everything needs exposure. Like being cured of cancer.

But they don't know better and still believe in fairy tales and unicorns. Let them honestly say whatever they like. For real now, we are not made of glass.

If they want to talk let them open a post here and if they develop a good argument then good if not then be prepared to take it. I don't think we ban that often except throwaway idiots who only spew retarded one liners.

tl;dr they're idiots

Fatality144 · 2019-01-06T09:22:47+00:00

I think the term incel is just like the terms sexist and racist. It is used for everything all the time and has lost most of its meaning. And every side uses it to describe the other. I have had pump and dump MGTOW’s call me an incel for wanting to stay a virgin and be basically monk mode (also for religious beliefs) and I have had feminists and bluepillers call me incel for being MGTOW and not worshiping the ground they walk on.

Its just a term at this point to insult and has no real meaning as true incels are pathetic self loathing individuals who worship women. Its like the pinnacle of simp-hood. But now its like “You dont like this female employee who is stealing from the company? Incel!!!!”

“You dont like Mcdonalds food? Racist!!!!” It all is just meaningless garbage at this point.

ClonazolamIsMe · 2019-01-06T13:51:26+00:00

Actual incels are of little value here. They're defective and cringy men who often suffer from psychological and physiological deformities, bitter that they can't get fucked. This sub has no reason to pander towards them, as they are the fringes of society.

Most who call MGTOWs incels use the argument that if men here actually wanted to go their own way, they would stop talking about women, despite the fact that most here who do talk about women are doing so because they've been fucked over by women and want to vent, or because women are causing hardship towards fellow men who could benefit from the MGTOW philosophy.

Also, women still have a significant impact on the lives of men forced to live amongst them in society.

CanYouSeeTheWords · 2019-01-06T14:12:05+00:00

After reddit murdered the subreddit most came here and just ghost along. They are too afraid of people who take control so they won't post as often but down vote and be associated with MGTOW negatively. Ah well, ignore them and they will go away.

HeyDontDoxMe · 2019-01-06T08:11:31+00:00

I prefer the term 'volcel', voluntary celibate.

Sure, I'll take it when it comes by but even when I get laid, I never enjoy it. I'm always too worried about getting #metoo'd, std's, or drama.

bfte2 · 2019-01-06T10:47:33+00:00

The biggest irony is that the people who throw around this incel garbage look like textbook incels.

TheDevilsAdvokaat · 2019-01-06T14:50:58+00:00

I think it's more likely a smear tactic.

Incels got banned; TRP got quarantined; they hope if they smear MGTOW enough we might get banned or quarantined too.

nigelh · 2019-01-06T15:39:58+00:00

Look at it from a feminist point of view.
If you are an incel you blame them for all your problems.
If you are MGTOW they blame you for all of their problems.

LetsStartFlame · 2019-01-06T16:16:09+00:00

Ugh I think I’m an incel because I fucking hate most women, although at one point of my teenage years I was successful with them

srtor · 2019-01-06T17:02:16+00:00

incel is a narrative pushed by SJWs, feminazis, media. Don't fall for it.

MGTOW is not hating of women. Speaking the true nature of women is not HATE. However, truth may hurt sometimes.

[deleted] · 2019-01-06T17:33:03+00:00

thank you that is a good critique we are NOT incels we have just weighed the benefits and cons and want to do mgtow due to having more pros

magx01 · 2019-01-06T19:42:05+00:00

There are definitely a ton of guys here who came at this with more of a "this is the only road available to me" thing than a "I could have succeeded but success in that area carries way more cons than pros" thing and it bleeds through their posts.

However, another reason is that the biological impulse to mate is so strong people literally cannot fathom "dropping out of the game" and so if they couldn't, no one can. Classical psychological projection. They will literally not believe an actual, true, honest mgtow because to them it would be impossible to live this way.

CamoWoobie10 · 2019-01-06T20:16:12+00:00

Anything that is even slightly critical of women is considered incel these days. It's just the same old shaming tactics they've always used. "Wow, you hate women, bet it's because you cant get pussy! Better tow the line so you can get pussy and be a 'REAL' man"

Title	2 major reasons why this sub is sometimes called an incel sub
Author	abhilash1991
Upvotes	157
Comments	89
Date	January 6, 2019 5:49 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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