Does “hitting the wall” even matter?

ijnenak · 2019-08-25T10:34:00+00:00

Not the men they want though

swankvagabond · 2019-08-25T10:49:04+00:00

The wall play a huge role in women's SMV especially when it comes to age and nationality. Men are attracted to women with fertility and their beauty has a limit time whereas men's SMV lies in how much they earn and they are the gatekeepers of compromise.

So, if a beta simp who worships pussy find a 45 years old hag with saggy titties, unaware of the baggage the lady has at that age, he's putting his SMV at risk because she's past her prime and her time is expired.

And the wall has many factors that makes the person a liability and a depreciating asset for men with high SMV. For example: drugs, alcohol, the cock carousel, the ability to pair bond, the lack of personality, social behavior, physical and mental health and others.

That's why hitting the wall is very important especially to MGTOW because we need to be aware of the consequences that brings a post wall woman when she's still single in her late 20's and in the 30's and 40's

On the other hand, simps and orbiters will learn the hard way and they'll wish they would have listened to MGTOW in the place.

67chevysunburn · 2019-08-25T10:49:02+00:00

I see people's ID every day at work and I'm regularly shocked at how old thirty-something women look. If you get no exercise and have a shit diet and sedentary lifestyle, 30-something is a bad place to be for a woman where the attractiveness curve dips dramatically.

Honestly I look at them and take a guess at their age before I see their ID. Women compared to men in the same age bracket look about 15 years older - no exaggeration.

Men on the other hand, have it much easier sustaining lean muscle mass thanks to that magic hormone testosterone and its natural anti-aging effects. Take a look at Tom Cruise and Josh Brolin at 50+. We have it better in aging in every possible way.

801735 · 2019-08-25T10:33:44+00:00

hitting the wall isn’t any real obstacle to attracting men.

What men?

Krazyrobus · 2019-08-25T10:59:28+00:00

Never cared for that common opinion in mgtow.

It's like some schadenfraude that stems from jealousy that women can get 90% of their desired men when they are younger. So what, if you are focused on yourself you stop caring about it. They become blades of grass in a field.

Origami84 · 2019-08-25T12:42:36+00:00

Others here have hinted at it, but i'll be more specific: yeah, sure, a woman can always find men chasing after her but if she hasn't locked one down before the wall then she failed in her long term "strategy". A man chasing an aging, uglier woman will be undoubtedly less desiderable himself - she can have him, but truth is she doesn't want him at all - at best she will "accept" him, thinking that she is settling, which will make both miserable. The schadenfreude here is all about that: for these basic thots the average man is not good enough - but crashing into the wall degrades them so fast that suddenly even the average men is too good for them. It's a complete reversal. Exactly as i may be resentfull if a girl that i like rejects me (pre wall), a girl that i don't like anymore (postwall) forced to go out with dregs or society or men that just wants to p&d her darkly pleases me. It's the typical "i told you so" - you weren't too good for me, miss, and now you can enjoy the bed you made.

CognPsycNeurScie · 2019-08-25T12:10:52+00:00

Do you also think looks AND wallet of a man do not matter?

buff_minorcan · 2019-08-25T16:47:24+00:00

I think this is a major cause in the rise of incels. Under normal circumstances a beta male that isn't all that attractive could at least find himself a homely looking woman to be with. They could get married, have some ugly kids, build a life for their ugly selves.

Now thru social media and dating apps even the unattractive chics get validation and tons of DM's. So why settle for the ugly beta male?

scocasso · 2019-08-25T22:08:12+00:00

Hitting the wall matters because it makes me laugh. It makes me smile. It makes me feel good. I see how all the girls in my school look now, and most of them look just as horrid as all of the mothers looked when we were kids. All these chicks that turned up their noses and thought they were better than all the guys because they were a princess who deserved a prince -- now nearly all of them look like shit. They take selfies like they think they're hawt. So, even if they go and get themselves some desperate guy who can look past their horrid looks, who cares, that's just funny too.

monkeemagik · 2019-08-25T10:31:48+00:00

I think the biggest divorce stat’ are women over 50. Married for years and can divorce ‘boring old stale hubby’ and take a pile of cash. Even that age they seem able to jump back on the cock carousel with no effort with the invention of ‘Milfs’ and ‘Cougars’ and with porn on tap normalising debauchery it seems there are no limits anymore.

strainer123 · 2019-08-25T16:30:39+00:00

Most of these men want sex and no commitment, yeah we'll bang a post-wall woman, I'll bang a 40 y/o if she's still working out and looking decent, I just won't commit get it? She can't have kids anymore so if she didn't have them its over.

VOLK91P11 · 2019-08-25T10:45:44+00:00

I live in slovenia.. my ex is ugly and saggy after 10 years and still she gets compliments on Facebook, there are always simps out there, and she have a lot of orbiters always ready to pay her dinner or drive her to the sea.. yes she want some alpha man and because of the wall she will not get him ut still gets out waaaay better than men... . as a man unless you are rich or famous you will get nothing... I look so much better then her 6"4 spend 6 days a week in gym for 15 years but have an average income, I'm invisible to women.. so yes despite the wall she getsmore attention than most of men.. they spend all their lives in their bubble

AncientMGTOWWISDOM · 2019-08-25T12:52:22+00:00

i disagree, we were at peak simping as a society and now thats drying up fast!

THOTdestroyer_6000 · 2019-08-25T13:48:43+00:00

No, it doesn't. Pre-wall, post-wall... I'm still not interested.

VOLK91P11 · 2019-08-25T15:02:40+00:00

not jealous at all.. how can I bee jealous at women.. just my observation about the wall.. the wall is real and they get fewer options after but still way way more than men.. and this is important for men who still wanna date etc not me... but even if you are done with dating still intersexual dynamics is all over the place you just can't avoid this.. if you are just going to work etc even if you are monk mode you must still deal with consequences of female privilege all the time... so it is not jealousy it is more of an anger because I just can't have peace from this crap and beta males etc... my goal is to change business maybe even buy a farm or something I want to be as far away of this...

everydaygreyman · 2019-08-25T15:11:40+00:00

My ex immediately latched onto a 5'8" fat little toad. He's got a good job and a daughter. She's looking for money and validation and he's looking for a mother for his kid. She's super smug and proud of herself. I find her choice pathetic and hilarious. Alpha fucks and beta bucks. But yea, there's a lot of simps and a lot of roasties out there and they all seem to do just fine.

Notlikeotherguys · 2019-08-25T17:16:57+00:00

Agreed. It's a seller's market for pussy.

richbeezy · 2019-08-25T17:36:25+00:00

I feel sorry for the thirsty 28 year old that has been in a LTR with my ex wife (who is 36). When I was 28, the last thing I’d be doing is trying to get into a LTR with a current wall hitter (in progress). Dude is gonna be in for a surprise in a couple years. I was with her from age 20-36, he can have my scraps. I’d be chasing after 22 year olds if I were 28 pre-GMOY, not a 36 year old roastie. What do ya’ll think of this dude’s self esteem etc?

Blissbynature · 2019-08-25T18:13:18+00:00

I think what really hurts women about the wall is how the fantasy in her head about what she is and what power she can command comes crumbling down and there is no stopping it and she knows it.

First, youth, beauty, deference, fawning, attention, sexual power, money, gifts, you are desired, competed for, loved, etc.

And then you're just an old woman. No big family that loves you, no society that gives you attention or cares, all you have is your memories of whatever your slutty exploits were. And whatever prince charmings there are out there either don't notice you at all, or look away after a quick glance never to look again.

I guess they could start writing articles for the Huffington Post to fill up their lonely evenings.

FlyingSexistPig · 2019-08-25T19:39:03+00:00

You're a little unclear on the concept of what men and women want. It's not the same thing.

Women want commitment, sure. But they want it from a guy that other women want, otherwise they've settled. If a guy that they ignore asks them out, it makes them furious, and shatters their world view. Because suddenly they see themselves as no more than 1 point on the SMV scale higher than that guy. So if they think that guy's a 2, they're now a 3.

Hot guys with options don't ask them out. That's the problem. And they're still negotiating based on last years' prices, ignoring deflation.

edgysecularist · 2019-08-25T17:28:18+00:00

We don't give a shit about what simps do this is MGTOW sub and yes the wall is a biological fact that does matter

Title	Does “hitting the wall” even matter?
Author	roxon89
Upvotes	98
Comments	44
Date	August 25, 2019 10:27 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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