Does love even exist?

Kwen_Oellogg · 2019-05-16T13:26:52+00:00

A woman loves a man the same way a man would love a car. As an utility.

Sivitiri · 2019-05-16T14:57:39+00:00

Listen Morty, I hate to break it to you, but what people calls “love” is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard, Morty, then it slowly fades, leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. I did it. Your parents are gonna do it. Break the cycle, Morty. Rise above. Focus on science.

-Rick-

caem123 · 2019-05-16T13:34:28+00:00

It's a recent trend. 150 years ago people paired up to create a family and wealth.

Atriplex124 · 2019-05-16T13:49:40+00:00

People come together to have children. Love is just chemicals that make you want to stick around and raise them, so they stand a chance. It fades in time, and a lot faster for the female I may add. Since hypergamy and doubt are her natural instincts when it comes to sexual selection. Whatever else you feel for her is projection. It will be ok man, trust me.

2019-05-16T13:20:57+00:00

Love was invented to sell more books.

It never existed in the first place. People got married looking to survive not to have exciting experiences or a source of sex.

shatterthecrystal63 · 2019-05-16T13:30:40+00:00

Nope, it's bullshit. It's an abstract take on a chemical reaction that occurs when your dick points like a compass needle to North. Not sure if man or woman invented, but it's fake.

Probably Shakespeare. Dude was on some whacky shit back in the day.

UmbraAnimo · 2019-05-16T14:37:13+00:00

"The reason you haven't felt it, is because it doesn't exist. What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons"

2019-05-16T14:54:47+00:00

No.

Teenage super horniness is occasionally mistaken as romantic love, but that's as close as you get.

shellbross · 2019-05-16T14:27:40+00:00

Love is nothing more than a rush of oxytocin in your brain. Women knows that, and use it for their advantage.

turtleh · 2019-05-16T18:16:42+00:00

Echoing what's in here.

It's like Cypher in the Matrix with the steak. The steak isn't "real" but what is real? At least to Cypher the steak is real enough and he's willing to stay in the matrix plugged into a pod.

tinybabyslothdawww · 2019-05-16T18:21:51+00:00

Love is real, but just like our incorrect "programming" and conditioning by the mainstream, we've been convinced love is other things. Love is not a relationship, or a promise or an obsession. Don't let marketing, and lust fool you, those things are not real/true love.

Don't let the redpill rage fool you either, just because you're angry right now. Love is real, but the only way to figure out what it really is, is first you need to learn to love yourself. This is the MGTOW way, and always has been. Forget what you think you know. Put yourself up on the pedestal. Work out for yourself, look good for yourself, improve your career, or profession for yourself. When you feel whole because you did these things for yourself, you will know what love truly is.

Sorry for sounding preachy, but there seems to be a lot of angry redpill rage commenters. It's good to stay cynical or jaded against how society wants us to act so you can protect yourself, but don't deny yourself the good things in life too.

JihadNinjaCowboy · 2019-05-16T14:13:54+00:00

PorkBomber · 2019-05-16T16:11:35+00:00

the love between husband and wife. The "I'll catch a grenade for you" love...

Unfortunately we are fed many bullshit lies since childhood. Happily ever after love is one of those lies. Sorry to break it you but such love seldom exist in the real world. Love is just chemical reaction in the brain for people to get together and reproduce. That is why it is intense for first few months/years of marriage but fades over time. The same people who are ready to die for each other after marriage hate each other after 20+ years. Don't let your instincts get better of you. Control your brain, don't let your brain control you.

six-twosix · 2019-05-16T19:06:26+00:00

It depends on what you mean by love. A lot of comments here equate love with lust. Love, as in Eros is very different from lust and many times can be totally separated from it.

As a kid, I once came to love a girl in every sense of the word. Sex was the last thing in my mind, all I wanted was to spend time with her, laugh with her, keep her away from danger and become the best possible man I could be, all to make her happy. My fantasies about her were not sexual in the slightest, but were instead about us overcoming challenges and growing together, dying together. I cannot lie though, my fist attraction to her was purely physical, but it didn't remain so.

Love is not something you happen to find in the middle of the road, people don't suddenly "fall in love". Love is built, and strengthened, and when things go from bad to hell, it is love that will keep a couple together, cheering them on through difficult times.

This is however, very VERY rare, it was rare throughout history, and it is non-existent today. Why is it rare? Because women are not aware of their faults, and many times they don't even want to be. There's no role model for how women should act towards their husbands, we've no system in place that exposes women's nature and calls them out to go beyond their biological instincts and treat men like human beings instead of ATMs.

Men know that they're interested in sex, they know that what attracts them to a woman is purely physical, but unlike women we learn to see past that. We suppress the beast inside and come to see women as more than just objects of our pleasure. Society however, does not want us to do that, since day one of our lives as men society over stimulates our sexual drive to keep us from seeing women as human beings, because once we do, we get to see what a disgusting human lies inside that beautiful body. In the past women were (at least somewhat) better than the women today, men would still see their faults but it was something they could have worked around... but not today.

Anyway, this is why a woman's love is so rare. Because no one calls them out on seeing men as objects. In fact, so much effort is put in blaming men seeing women as objects that every girl in our society has undeservinly put herself in a higher moral ground that every man out there, and who can bring her back down?

Here's a video explaining Eros's deep complexity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WReLIE08Dnc

Although he brings up religion here and there he looks at the matter philosophically al-throughout.

Malbek604 · 2019-05-16T20:42:24+00:00

I don't think it exists, at least the way it's marketed.

TheTastelessBatman · 2019-05-17T00:12:14+00:00

Truth bomb dropped.

Edit: the love a man has for his child. Women love their kids for selfish reason and it can't never be as selfless as a father's love

ChiTownBob · 2019-05-17T04:52:47+00:00

Greek has 4 types of love

family love
erotic love
friendship
unselfish love

Kypris2 · 2019-05-17T12:22:56+00:00

The only woman who has ever loved me truly, and who ever will, is my mother.

Another woman may love me in her fashion, but it is conditional. It is not the same. It is transactional. I have to provide services to her satisfaction; if she deems that I am doing this, she tolerates me / cherishes me, depending on whether I JUST meet her expectations, or exceed them.

Meeting them is very hard work, in the modern age, where culture (via education, movies, songs, books, magazines, Oprah) set the bar VERY high. If you EXCEED them, well, you're putting in work, friend, and good for you. I guess. For the rest of us, who are mortal, it is a rough slog.

What YOU expect of HER? You pig. Do you want sex once a week and the odd back rub after a hard day, with a nice home made meal of your favorite? You pig. You slavemonger. How dare you. Do the dishes. And no, I'm too tired tonight.

It is conditional love in the EXTREME from women. It is love from of an object. You love it if it is WORKING to your SPECIFICATIONS. Nothing less. Meanwhile you see other objects out there which you imagine are MUCH better. Movies show you how your life should be. But your life does not look the same? There must be something wrong with YOUR object. Kick it. Nag it. Make it work properly. It won't? Time to shop for replacement. Hop online. Make a profile. Wow, look! A hundred messages in a week, or more, to my photoshopped profile. Time to hit the gym. Time to look good. Time to make plans.

What is he, anyway? Object. Doesn't matter. There's better out there. There's replacements. Find a replacement while you can! Clock is ticking. I'm 32. Maybe 10 years left (she thinks) before the wall. Talk to a lawyer. REALLY? I can get THAT much? Well, what do I have to do?

No problem. He is an object. You can't hurt an object. My kids? They'll be better off. I'll find a better dad. No problem....

And... so it goes.

klim_milk · 2019-05-17T08:40:42+00:00

Does honor exist?

Does freedom exist?

Love exists to the degree the ideas above exist. Men are capable of them. But they're fundamentally irrational and if you're not aware they are, they can trap and destroy you. Don't let yourself be destroyed.

If you're feeling love, it's normal, but that doesn't mean you ignore AWALT. Remebering AWALT will save you from the rush of oxytocin clouding your judgment. Passionate love where men woo women was invented by men who kept one-upping one another to show how they felt. Given the enormous statistical evidence, and several millennia of recorded history, love doesn't mean shit to women. But the attention that love brings that they can brag to other women about is what really matters. Don't fuck up your life to flatter the egos and envies of AWALT.

immaluckez · 2019-05-16T15:39:57+00:00

Love is an illusion put up by society to keep the consumer industry going. Its all about money at the end of the day.

DarknetUser999 · 2019-05-16T16:19:41+00:00

Unfortunately, no.

Love was made up for marketing.

Very depressing tbh.

JnyJvu · 2019-05-16T16:43:29+00:00

As far as relationships go I feel that it's infatuation that becomes a habit then it becomes a full on ego driven addiction. You invest time and effort into it and thus it becomes harder to give it up or have it stolen from you. You'll fight to protect your investment.

Blackfysh88 · 2019-05-16T16:46:36+00:00

The love you have for a faithful pet.

Sajuck-Khar · 2019-05-16T18:48:27+00:00

Whenever anyone brings 'love' argument when talking about relationships, I always maintain that it is nothing more than a chemical/electrical imbalance in your brain that goes away if you give it time and think it through. It's not a magical thing, it's a temporary biological defect.

Suited_Vulture · 2019-05-16T19:13:31+00:00

It technically does exist, it just means different things for men and women. Male love is unconditional and sacrificial - the kind of love songs are written about. Female "love" is conditional and opportunistic. A female will "love" a male only in so far as it benefits her. If the male no longer provides her with any benefits, her "love" will disappear instantly. Just like when your old gaming PC no longer can run the newest games. You will no longer "love" it and will replace it without second thoughts. This is what female "love" is like. Thus, I think it misguided to even call it female "love".

Xornor · 2019-05-16T19:40:54+00:00

Yes it exists and there can be at least two different types of love between man and woman. It is then different question how it is possible to build or maintain over years.

MrWolf745 · 2019-05-16T20:58:30+00:00

No it doesn't.

General_Fear · 2019-05-17T01:13:34+00:00

Scientist have already studied this. Love is "real". It's a chemical process in the human brain. The brain is washed ( sorry, forgot the name of the chemical ) with this chemical. It can takes years. The average cut off is 5 to 7 years. That is why there is a term, the "7 year itch". That about the time the love is gone.

If you are into psychology, Jungian analysts will tell you that love is a projection of inner good values that you don't see in yourself. The other person is seen thru rose colored glasses. They don't see the person. They see past the person. That lasts until the person does something to break the illusion.

In the end, love is either chemical or psychological. But either way, it wears off.

Other types of love is a whole different category. My reply was about romantic love.

Mr_M0t0m0 · 2019-05-17T02:03:13+00:00

"Women" aka femanoids LOVE coercing males to marry them and sacrifice their own well being and happiness to provide for her every whim. They LOVE disrupting men's lives at every turn. They LOVE subservient males and attention from males. They LOVE seeing bad things happen to males. They LOVE it when males fail. DON'T GIVE THEM WHAT THEY LOVE.

undeadxchi · 2019-05-16T15:09:28+00:00

Stop using comrade its a commie term that is meant to remove any unique identification.

Brother is more than enough of a term. And that love has limitless potential.

Title	Does love even exist?
Author	SenatorSatan
Upvotes	77
Comments	43
Date	May 16, 2019 1:17 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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