Don't like it ? Leave.

Arzu1982 · 2016-09-29T18:06:18+00:00

You do what you wish, remember you are going your Own Way.

Stop looking or implying or even asking for approval, just do what you think is best and don't get married.

Now that said I would recommend your plan is a good one and make as much money as you can before you head out, legally of course.

strudel- · 2016-09-29T18:20:32+00:00

FYI women are no different in Thailand and Vietnam. Also, every country has its own corruption. In my opinion, the only way out to freedom is to just live your life and do your own thing, regardless of where you are on this planet. But there's nothing wrong with traveling the world.

DarthExero · 2016-09-29T20:10:10+00:00

East Asian women are far worse in culture, its just their low income means their demands are a bit lower at first. They will think of you as a rich white guy first and foremost.

The fact that you are 23 and own a home with only two years left on the mortgage leads me to think if you are in the US you are somewhere in the midwest or south with houses that are so cheap you can pay them off in a few years.

In American society men in their teens and 20s are given the absolute least amount of respect at any point in their lives. That whole women hitting the wall thing, men start off on the wall. You are on the wall right now.

Just the process of aging and being a MGTOW will cause you be happier in America. Once you don't go out engaging in the bullshit its really not so bad.

I would consider staying and then spending the next 15 years acquiring income generating assets and just have a bunch of fuck you income.

Incapaisa · 2016-09-29T22:04:57+00:00

Thailand/Vietnam.. should be visited..for small periods of time.. The women are worst than here but hey they are honest..at least with regard to money= vagina access. I been To Pattaya and the Philippines on a nice sex tourist trip now about 3 times each.

After like the 2nd week of banging..good young puss for cheap..the novelty wears off..trust me..no matter how high your libido is. You can get a new girl a night each night for like 30 - 50 american dollars but after like the 5th girl...its all a cycle where enough becomes enough. And if you take ONE girl for an extended period of time..you have to feed her, buy her gifts and shopping and then any bills her parents might happen to all of sudden bring up. Keep these Asian visits temporary.. I say 3 to 5 weeks max...

Also you will eat different food and have to assimilate to a foreign culture. Plus with your complexion you stand out as a mark to be hit.. nothing violent but a mark up in prices which foreigners pay versus what others pay.. Taxis, Beer, Food, Shopping...holy shit..everything gets a mark up... I am latino...and I seen it first hand.. Yet when I was with my friend who spoke Thai and spoke it with the native accent from there..I seen how much I was getting ripped off just by him talking and me being completely mute... Friend was Thai with perfect accent...

Even if you become fluent in their language..you still stand out...and negotiating with people over there..is no hope as honestly they really don't want you there..and don't like foreigners there.

These Asian countries are extremely Xenophobic and really hate you are there banging there girls but since you bring $$$ they tolerate it to a point, but of course at a premium..

My best advice..Pay off your home, here.. Invest your rent money from renters in said home..

Get a basic one bedroom apartment and just enjoy life..work less and just take temporary trips..

Unless you can go to these countries with a Native speaker it's no point and you will still get raped in money and over pay in everything.. And trust me..they can tell a Native speaker vs a Asian who is American and not speak Thai not as fluent as people who are from there.

Eyes_Of_The_Dragon · 2016-09-29T18:38:43+00:00

What other MGTOW think is irrelevant. Do you approve?

StopTop · 2016-09-29T20:12:24+00:00

This is why states rights are so important. If States were allowed to govern themselves more, and not have to comply with ever-growing 'give-an-inch-take-a-mile' federal regulations the US would be a much more diverse place. A unique country with unique states and different cultures within itself.

Don't like politics/culture of one state? Move to another.

But the left, unlike the right, likes to make sure that everyone must be forced to live like them and share their view. A hugely powerful central government thousands of miles from your home decides how you must live. That way there is no escape within your own country. You must leave the country entirely to escape the constant advancement of 'progressiveness'.

Dreesy · 2016-09-29T19:01:35+00:00

You'll just be trading one shit-hole for another.

Grass is always greener on the other side. Except of course, for the guy with the greener grass.. Which is nobody these days.

TheExSexOffender · 2016-09-29T18:50:21+00:00

"Vietnam and/or Thailand (haven't decided yet)"

You might want to research around a bit before you choose those two countries. If you think West women are bad, wait until you meet the Thai women. Check around on the posts here. Didn't look all too good.

MidnightZap · 2016-09-29T19:05:25+00:00

There is no country immune to this shit. Thank globalization for that.

lonewolf-chicago · 2016-09-29T20:07:37+00:00

Whenever I hear people talking about all of a society being fucked and they don't want to live in it anymore, it is usually the person's perspective that is messed up. Why don't you try helping someone, volunteer... be part of the cure. You think Vietnam or Thailand is better? LOL Good Luck.

JStheHammer · 2016-09-29T18:07:16+00:00

Will you work in thialand? The money won't last forever.

Mysological · 2016-09-29T22:56:00+00:00

Buy a house in the country, run a business from home - throw out the TV.

You can still be within the bounds of society for all the conveniences it offers, but without actually having to ever deal with anyone.

I live in South West London and manage to only interact with a select few people of my choosing (that's 0 women too) while keeping all the crap out of my life. Sometimes I don't leave the house for two weeks yet that is when I am most content. It's my world with all the things I like - with none of the shit.

wildfireboat · 2016-09-29T19:34:24+00:00

I approve. Don't forget to write. <3

TheOMGeffect · 2016-09-29T21:10:09+00:00

Personally I think America is the best shit hole there is. We have the most freedom out of any country except for maybe those super small ones that only millionaires can afford to live in.

LordPorker · 2016-09-30T00:23:17+00:00

Asian women will suck you dry if you let 'em. Just bang hookers, and for the love of god, don't marry 'em! (seen it happen).

KamiMoon · 2016-09-29T22:55:24+00:00

Take a vacation at both places and do your research thoroughly.

There are trade offs to everything. Grass is always greener on the other side.

NefariousRaccoon · 2016-09-29T22:59:31+00:00

We will always approve as long as you are happy. Your happiness is what matters.

hertus · 2016-09-30T00:24:20+00:00

Are you allowed to take time off where you work? If so, ask to take, say, six months off. You can tell your employer you're stressed or whatever. Then go to Asia and see how it is. If it turns out you don't like it, come back.

mrp_1844 · 2016-09-30T02:30:55+00:00

I want to see it collapse and disappear up its own controversies

I don't think that will happen because of the Men/Women problem.

In fact, this is a problem all over the world. Its a part of growing communism.

I think the USA is much further ahead in recognizing the problem.

GaryRidgeway · 2016-09-29T19:27:18+00:00

Honestly I choose to be way more sassy about it. When some normie gives me that "if you don't like it leave" I tell them buy me a plane ticket nigger.

Suddenly they're not so keen on the whole get out if it were to cost them. I'd take them up on it too. Ain't like I have anything of value weighing me down. So do it... buy me a plane ticket and magically watch America become great again.

All people have is their stupid little shaming tactics. Why do you think sociopaths do so well? They have no shame, or regret, or guilt... i'm not saying to be a sociopath. But I am saying to stop giving a fuck. These chimps aren't worth it.

Noomene · 2016-09-29T20:22:35+00:00

The mgtow dream. Go ahead brother, live it to the fullest.

wiserTyou · 2016-09-29T20:25:24+00:00

You're in a pretty great position for someone your age. IMHO you're a bit to young for that. If you're doing this well at 23 imagine how you'll be at 30. If I were you I'd spend the next 5-7 years working as much as I could, then semi retire. Whatever you do, good luck.

lostapwbm · 2016-09-29T20:26:14+00:00

Sure. Have fun with that. Just make sure you do a cup-check on some of the "girls" in Thailand before you get horizontal with them.

Cybermgtow · 2016-09-29T21:22:37+00:00

Bad idea buddy, at least in my opinion. How about we just milk the west for every last drop before jumping ship? Pursue your career to great achievement, acquire Knowledge, wealth, hobbies, travel and experience life to its fullest.

Even here, you can find sexual satisfaction with high end escorts, just do your ressearch on how to do so safely. The escort and hooker subreddits here can help. If that's not your cup of tea, you can always save up about $40,000 over the next 10-20 years than go to Nepal or Cambodia to use a surrogate mother and get a kid. That way you can play the family man, if you like.

There are still so many wonderful out of life, despite the tyranny of the state, and the women who use it to their advantage. Jumping ship seems like an overreaction.

nosexwiththeex · 2016-09-29T22:33:18+00:00

Go forth, do what you want, bang hookers... live your life brother

victor_knight · 2016-09-29T22:39:20+00:00

Just don't end up like these guys. Stay MGTOW.

VPAristotle · 2016-09-29T23:54:20+00:00

The rest of the planet is far worse.

Spungo1 · 2016-09-30T00:09:44+00:00

Do you normally go on international vacations? If not, this is a horrible plan. You might have an idea in your head of what other places are like, and you'll be disappointed when places do not meet those expectations.

If you've actually been to those countries a bunch of times and feel like it's a second home, then yes this would be a nice little plan. I hate travel, so I would rather stay where I am.

hertus · 2016-09-30T00:12:09+00:00

Sure. I recommend having about US$1000 per month generated from passive income such as rental income and living in Chiang Mai. There is a big digital nomad scene there. You can do freelance work in coworking spaces there and live a great life. One such digital nomad is Sean Lee: https://www.youtube.com/user/1MINaDAY

Glocks10mike · 2016-09-30T00:45:01+00:00

Why wait 2 years? You could rent out the house now and do it if you were really going to do it. It'd be great if you did but right now you're no different than everyone who says, 'if trump wins I'm moving to Canada, if Obama wins I'm moving to Canada, if bush wins I'm moving to Canada' and they never leave they just stay and complain and say they're leaving.

genethedog · 2016-09-30T01:38:19+00:00

Sounds like a plan man. 23 are you've done all that? Good for you.

Unfortunately, I think anywhere you go there's going to be a bunch of selfish greedy stupid cunts. I'd have thought you were one because of the Islam comment but I'm guessing you're in a bit of a pissed off mood - and that's ok - so I'm not going to judge.

Ya see man, no one in this world wants to give anyone credit because everyone thinks they are smart. Everyone thinks "if only the world was run my way"

No one is going to look at an accomplished guy, especially at your age, and go "damn, he's a smart mofo, maybe I should listen to him a bit more." Because the problem with stupid people is that they don't know they are stupid and you could test them every month for 10 years and have a consistent result clearly showing they are stupid, or at least even just a bit dumber than average, and they would never own it. It would be "everyone else" and "systematic problem." It's just the nature or people.

Also, everyone thinks their own experiences are the best life lesson experiences. Some cunt on a farm that's never been 100 miles from home thinks he's just as experienced in life as, I don't know...You.

Everyone acts like they are so virtuous and caring and special because actually being those things is hard work and takes a long time to learn. And very few want (or can handle) that.

It's what happens when you let the women (children) and children run the school.

And I get it. If you're tired man. Which I would be at 23 with that kind of resume. You need to go recharge. But don't forget the battle we're fighting back home. We need young dudes like you that are killing it. Not a bunch of thugs and BLM and rednecks. There's just so many of them that it seems impossible.

Zombocom1911 · 2016-09-30T02:23:31+00:00

I approve. This post sounds angry and hardcore to me. Best of luck, Thailand was fun as hell when I went for a month.

hollybegin · 2016-09-30T02:38:39+00:00

You might be disappointed with Thailand. Chances are you'll be treated like a walking wallet pretty much all the time and now that I think about it, same goes with Vietnam. Take a look at their respective histories and you'll understand why easily...but DO IT.

Go over there, behave, learn the language, learn muay thai in a small camp and last but not least, learn to sail, coast lines are breathtaking and there's some freedom at sea.

A last suggestion: few months in a buddhist monastery, asceticism and meditation....then Pattaya (or the other way around).

You're gonna have a blast, you bastard!

Peace.

winnipegreddit · 2016-09-30T04:31:41+00:00

We have to accept it is the same everywhere. All we can do is not get tangled up in the first place.

s0ma_ · 2016-09-30T05:06:32+00:00

you dont need us or approval. be free my brother

Raiden627 · 2016-09-30T08:51:03+00:00

I'm with you man - this fucking income tax is shit. You have no choice on paying a girls bullshit welfare so she can sit around and get fucked all day and have more kids to keep the gravy thing rolling meanwhile you're being disrespected and shit on by your employers and you have to put on a tie and a smile on everyday. I'm fucking done working for the Man and I'm not paying into this system anymore. I'm going to keep my taxable income under the threshold and do whatever it takes to make sure they never see a dime from me.

wawakaka · 2016-10-01T02:11:12+00:00

go listen to tom leykis...don't marry before 30.

the guy's been married like 4 times and knows what willhappen to you.

LeanneLoughman · 2016-09-30T07:18:32+00:00

I bet OP has never even left the country lmao

Snatch_McUnty · 2016-09-30T14:51:59+00:00

That's cool. But you're already off to a good start with your life now. Why not just keep investing in real estate?>

And btw, you're only a 'slave' to the law or society when you're not familiar with the rules. Educate yourself in law and everything that governs life in our world to learn how to use the system to your advantage. it's very dry and boring but worth it.

Title	Don't like it ? Leave.
Author	Cybermgtow
Upvotes	73
Comments	80
Date	September 29, 2016 5:57 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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