As a younger man I read both the Iliad and Odyssey by Homer.
ILIAD
In my blue pill days I remember reading the Iliad with righteous indignation that Helen, the most beautiful woman in the world, was kidnapped from Sparta by Paris of Troy. And, that Menelaus her Husband had a duty to take Sparta to war with Troy to get her back, resulting in a 10 year war and thousands of good men dying in the theatre of war.
Today in my red bill days I read Iliad and think "So what, hoes gonna hoe, find another bitch and don't waste your men's lives. Plenty more wet holes in Sparta".
ODYSSEY
In my blue pill days I remember being excited and inspired how Odysseus spent 10 years after the end of the Trojan war making his way back home to his Wife out of love and loyalty. At one point he spends 7 years as the captive of Calypso, a beautiful nymph who is in love with him, and forces him to make love to her every day. Eventually she is forced to release Odysseus after the god Hermes intervenes. Odysseus then continues his journey home, and fights off a group of suitors single handed with spear and sword to win back his Wife.
Today in my red pill mind, I read Odyssey and think "You stupid idiot you should have stayed with the beautiful nymph being treated like a king for the rest of your life, and having her enthusiastically drain your balls everyday".
Gentleman, it's fascinating how your experience in life, and how you view reality, will greatly shape how you view history.
[–]80173532 points33 points34 points (10 children) | Copy Link
[–]thestoicmgtow 13 points14 points15 points (9 children) | Copy Link
[–]80173511 points12 points13 points (6 children) | Copy Link
[–]thestoicmgtow 4 points5 points6 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–]8017353 points4 points5 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]thestoicmgtow 2 points3 points4 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]8017352 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]William_A_Bishop1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]thestoicmgtow 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]fuckingjakedebrusk 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]thestoicmgtow 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]throwmyaccountaway9911 points12 points13 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]thestoicmgtow 11 points12 points13 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]KC_weeden2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]throwmyaccountaway991 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
This is a very interesting, and frankly refreshing, take on classic Greek literature.
The literature and philosophy from ancient times is chock full of wisdom, if you know where to look. Maybe they just weren't as watered down as we are in the days of the internet, and the truly great stuff made it's way into history rather than fading into average obscurity -but it seems like that level of quality is rarely created in the modern age.
Edit: I definitely view things differently in my life, based on experiences. I didn't used to, but once I started to get older, and grow out of my "youth", I gained a bit of wisdom along the way. Now I look at most things through experience tinted glasses.
[–]thestoicmgtow 11 points12 points13 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]Sir_manalot2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]thestoicmgtow 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]PubliusVirgilius7 points8 points9 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]thestoicmgtow 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]H1v3-m1nd6 points7 points8 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]thestoicmgtow 6 points7 points8 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]H1v3-m1nd4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Docbear646 points7 points8 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]thestoicmgtow 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]VoxVirilis2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]thestoicmgtow 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
It's somewhat of a strech to call the Odyssey "History", but I see your point.
[–]thestoicmgtow 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
bruh I'm sure he used two hands...
[–]thestoicmgtow 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
The trojan war wasn't really about Helen, but about the disrespect of Paris, who abducted her, and the Oath of Tyndarous who forced all the other previous suitors lend their power to Menelaus, placed under the leadership of his brother Agamemnon.
Helen was the excuse. It was about honour and the belief that war is where a man can truly prove himself.
[–]thestoicmgtow 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]TheLastMgtow1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]thestoicmgtow 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]TheLastMgtow1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link