Finding your identity as a man

mcros85 · 2018-05-13T13:32:59+00:00

If you're having girls problems I feel bad for you son. I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one.

urban3879 · 2018-05-13T10:53:42+00:00

That's all women do , cause problems .

labiteatibit · 2018-05-13T12:44:25+00:00

When a women says she was used and abused in previous relationships, that it's usually projection, meaning it was her doing the using and abusing. They love to be the "victim".

Wolfoflulzstreet · 2018-05-13T14:40:34+00:00

I’d like to say otherwise but I’ve got a similar story. Sex is good even great but it’s always down from there. I’ve spent over 2 decades being disappointed. Why spend the energy when every woman is the same? A non-stop parade of women that want nothing more than to hook up, drop out of life in terms of their responsibilities, and drain money out of me. Every woman I date wants to quit her career and move in with me. I’m so done.

NotMyWomen · 2018-05-13T14:10:42+00:00

Get rid of her.

Shes getting bent over by Jamal who she lent money to.

This story keeps coming up on here; do not let the female ruin your life.

Let her go and lend out all of her money never to be returned, and get her pussy licked.

Best of luck to her.

You go have your MMA fight; you go where you want, when you want, and how you want.

Jacques-de-Molay · 2018-05-13T12:52:09+00:00

Seems like it has all clicked in for you at a time when you have so much runway left in life. But you’ve got a parasite to remove first. When will you do that? Sooner, as in, now, is better than later. If she doesn’t live with you, just be like, “I’m unhappy with the relationship and am ending it. Take care.” Then break off contact cause you know they will pull every trick out of the book to stay.

ManReggie · 2018-05-13T18:28:08+00:00

If you want to date them, that’s fine. But you need to learn how to control them. They’re EXACTLY like little children, I’d say even worse.

If they throw a tantrum. Tell them to fuck off and ignore them. DO NOT ENGAGE IN AN ARGUMENT.

‘Grow up or fuck off. Today, right now’. That’s all you say. Then you ignore them until the child is over her tantrum.

If they try to manipulate, laugh in their faces and walk away. Ignore them.

The key is always to not engage in stupid debate. They do not argue facts, they argue emotions. Emotions are acute and senseless. I’ve literally had women cornered with the facts on countless occasions, there’s a 5 seconds confusion and realisation on their faces, before they change the subject completely for a fresh start in the argument. They’re not interested in common sense or facts, just emotions and feelings.

Realise for the most part you’re not dealing with rational beings.

You need to control them. Note that there’s a big difference being controlling and making that a negative experience for them, and being IN control. You want to be the latter.

Or just go your own way. Far more peaceful and enjoyable.

Herkuzz · 2018-05-13T12:58:11+00:00

Reading this I literally see a girl I was really into a year back or so: emotional manipulation, not caring about my hobbies, saying they're stupid etc. but I was so blindsided because of my emotions. Weird how I understand now that she's a total piece of shit, damn.

Gamersparadise4 · 2018-05-13T13:18:19+00:00

Things were not like this in the past.The reason is women have too much power and freedom in this day and age.And the biggest problem is that they can leave you whenever they want with the power to destroy men's lives which they lacked in the past.As TFM says"Simply take away their rights.Its not Rocket Science."

Baldrbaldr · 2018-05-13T14:06:01+00:00

"I’m in a relationship now, it’s been 8 months."

Get out before it's too late.

deadBeefCafe2014 · 2018-05-13T13:48:49+00:00

Women will ruin the sharp edge of your career. I’m convinced it is used as a form of control.

Joroda · 2018-05-13T13:59:17+00:00

You become truly wise when you realize that they have no core.

FauxVitae · 2018-05-13T14:47:04+00:00

“oh I’ve been used/hurt in the past so you’ll have to put up with me being (insert problem)”.

Translation: I've ridden the cock carousel and have been alpha-widowed and now have lots of baggage to bring into this relationship that you will have to deal with.

Jacques-de-Molay · 2018-05-13T15:02:01+00:00

Shit. I’ve never been sad to end a relationship in the past. The moment they disrespect me I’m out of there. But this one has got me a good one. I’m totally headfked. Ashamed to admit it but I’m devastated.

I’ve been in denial. It’s pathetic. I’m pretty ashamed of myself.

I know it’s the best thing and I’ll be way happier in a couple of weeks but it’s almost like I’ve lost my edge. A weaker man. That’s not me.

I need to sort my head out. Cut ties and get back to being the real me

Hwga_lurker_tw · 2018-05-13T16:56:43+00:00

The problem is you are actually considering how these women feel actually means anything in the scope of how you live your life. You wanna know the big secret of being an adult? No one fucking knows what they are doing or talking about anymore. Nothing new or novel is being created by these people, they lack imagination and drive, but they have no problem dragging you down with them. There are always obstacles to bettering yourself, these just happen to have names.

You wanna know what your identity as a man can be boiled down to? "All or nothing." Cry when you have to. Take care of yourself. And acting stupid every once in awhile is good for you.

Read a book. Watch a sunrise. Buy your friend a beer. And climb that fucking mountain.

FridgeCape · 2018-05-13T18:14:11+00:00

MGTOW has helped me realise that all women are essentially the same. When I see a group of them, I don’t see any individualism. I can only see their faults as women; bitchy, wingey emotional, demanding creatures. I just want to fuck them based on their physical attraction, but I don’t want to make all the effort and take the steps inbetween, it’s just too much bullshit.

Just like you, the men before me dealing with women I come across, I realise they were one step ahead of me. I also felt anger towards them for making it so difficult for me to deal with a chick. Now I feel myself turning into those “douchebag players” I very much despised.

Zombocom1911 · 2018-05-13T17:39:08+00:00

I’ve reached the point where my only interest in women is for sex. My experiences are shaping my attitude to that of “women are only useful for sex”.

Because its 100% true. They REALLY aren't bringing anything else to the table. They think that sex is all they need to get everything (their unrealistically long list of demands) in return. Actually, they are bringing tremendous liabilities and new problems and worries along for the ride, all in exchange for occasional access to some fishy scented flaps of skin. what a terrific deal!!!!

Morphs_ · 2018-05-13T16:03:22+00:00

I’ve reached the point where my only interest in women is for sex.

Go check out TheRedPill, which is basically just that. No more relationship drama. You can do whatever you want and have a lot of sex once you get a plate collection going.

Griever114 · 2018-05-13T19:39:51+00:00

I've got almost 10 years oook n you brother.

It doesnt get better. You need to realize that EVERYONE especially them, only see you as a resource. The only reason they dont want you doing MMA or other hobbies is because its taking time, money and attention AWAY FROM THEM also, if you get hurt, there goes their cash and prizes.

You are a resource, no one wants to see their portfolio take an investment hit.

Ignore women, acquire currency and enjoy and peaceful life

JayJayEcks · 2018-05-13T13:59:56+00:00

Women want so called protectors?

And yet, don't want you to know how to fight.

grewapair · 2018-05-13T16:51:23+00:00

Women who have been hurt in the past were hurt from their own bad decisions. Not your responsibility to make up for that.

vsimn · 2018-05-13T18:27:56+00:00

Hi i'm 21, study medicine, play the guitar too and do strenght training. I can rely to you, when i'm with a girl, my hobbies and study suffer. It's like, that girls have a negative influence on me.

Jacques-de-Molay · 2018-05-13T19:07:43+00:00

I feel sorry for you, man. I’m nearing 30 and my sex drive is gone. I can bring it back through effort but I see no point. Women have no hold over me. Don’t let them in your life if you desire peace.

happyhumblehermit · 2018-05-13T20:37:22+00:00

If you want to date, break up after the honeymoon phase is over.

DraggingGroggyWassup · 2018-05-13T20:48:16+00:00

The first few months of a relationship is all posturing. It's setting the time for how things will remain. Most men spend this time giving in to every little thing the new girl wants, then wonders why she turns out to be a controlling bitch. It's your own fault.

BananaWilly · 2018-05-13T21:37:58+00:00

Stop listening to women about how you need to live your one and only life.

RICHIESCO12 · 2018-05-13T21:16:03+00:00

This helps me, thanks bro

robowriter · 2018-05-13T15:15:32+00:00

It's a useless waste of time.

Mr_M0t0m0 · 2018-05-13T15:39:34+00:00

Dump her and stay away from the lot of them. AWALT

Jacques-de-Molay · 2018-05-13T21:18:42+00:00

I’ve got to say I wasn’t expecting such support, thank you brothers.

I was expecting maybe a “man up” or “just get on with it” but your advice and support has been unreal.

This is obviously a huge issue affecting many many men.

It’s onwards and upwards from now on.

Thanks again fellas.

dinnerwithfunions · 2018-05-13T23:43:28+00:00

There’s a book from the renaissance called “lives of the artists” it was essentially a collection of short bios on all the old Venetian and Flemish master painters and sculptors.

There’s a section in the book detailing how to become an excellent artist and one rule of thumb every artist agrees by is: the avoidance of women and relationships.

Makes sense... if they were spending all their time at work (to support her) and then Most leisure time with her, how would they ever get their 10,000 hours in and reach mastery in their lifetime?

I’m sure a lot of the old school monastic monk academics felt the same way.

twayne-by-the-ocean · 2018-05-14T03:50:02+00:00

I’ll be honest, this ain’t a relationship sub. We advocate “dump that bitch” over fixing whatever problems you and she have.

Life is short. Days are precious. Why spend them with subpar folk? Why not freely pursue your interests to the fullest and live for yourself?

Have a good day.

Jacques-de-Molay · 2018-05-14T04:31:58+00:00

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fripsidelover9110 · 2018-05-13T15:46:03+00:00

Yes.... Not only as a man, but also more importantly as a descent human being with dignity, no man should give in to women's emotional abuse and manipulation, just to get some temporary access to pussies.

To be sure, sex is good. But it's not worthy enough for your dignity being denied.

Sneakybobo · 2018-05-13T15:52:50+00:00

'That's what bitches do. They bitch.' - TFM

hirayama_ronin · 2018-05-13T22:06:26+00:00

I’ve reached the point where my only interest in women is for sex.

As it should be. The idea that men should get all their life fuel from women is the idea of women. Men used to have their own ideas.

If you're not ready for MGTOW and still want to gamble with your life, get a wife from overseas. Look to Thailand, the Philippines, Sri Lanka, India, South America or Eastern Europe. The viability of your marriage will go up by at least 50%.

Otherwise, prepare to go your own way.

ThexNoobx12 · 2018-05-14T01:03:10+00:00

Don't mean to be a dick, but you sound like a weak man that's essentially doesn't understand the current mentally of your modern day female, hence you are just being gamed. It's either you control them or they run loose doing shit like the above. I'm probably the guy she's texting... You men really need to wake up smh.

RocketPowersSD · 2018-05-14T01:29:33+00:00

Fantastic read, thank you.

Mefic_vest · 2018-05-14T07:37:08+00:00

My experiences are shaping my attitude to that of “women are only useful for sex”.

I fear that in this modern age, the kind of woman who does not conform to your characterization has become so rare that her kind is effectively extinct.

MAJIIC · 2018-05-14T20:36:21+00:00

Thanks for sharing

Poofysmoof · 2018-05-15T00:44:46+00:00

You have all this great information and you’ve been shown numerous times by this women and her motives yet you think it’s different with you.

You’re in a great place, you have a decent career you have no baggage. I’d say a ton of men here would die to be in your situation. Yet your wasting it dealing with a women who treats you like crap. Definitely head over to TRP if you want to continue dating women.

Mgtow is about building yourself up and realizing the deal you’ve been told is the only option was a lie. You still need a women in your life and I’ll be the last one to shit on you for it. But do it safely and learn you are the one with the power, your the prize, act in such a manner. Good luck

FalsePositiveRethink · 2018-05-15T11:26:54+00:00

"Yet time after time women close to me simply attack. They go on the offensive. Totally emotional and unexpected.

"All can at any time - Emotionally explode. Ignore your passions/hobbies/opinions. Manipulate you."

They think you're a beta male.

Regardless of your success, your skills, your ability to fight (MMA - respect!), they think you're a beta male. That you're 'soft'.

They are programmed to attack and shame and browbeat and insult beta males. They can't help it, it's their genetic programming.

Only one thing you can do: when they attack you and shame you and browbeat you and insult you, you throw it back in their faces ten times harder.

It's hard for a properly-raised, decent man to do. I've been there, it goes against all of your instincts. Especially putting your own mother into her place, that's tough and completely contrary to everything you've learnt. But you have to do it. You have to lay down the law, and show them that there are consequences for disrespecting you. Otherwise it will never stop.

And it works. Simply stop tolerating it, react against it, and it will stop.

"I’ve reached the point where my only interest in women is for sex. My experiences are shaping my attitude to that of “women are only useful for sex”."

Yep. You've swallowed another red pill.

Go put it all into practice. MGTOW will save your life.

Title	Finding your identity as a man
Author	Jacques-de-Molay
Upvotes	159
Comments	72
Date	May 13, 2018 10:19 AM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/8j2xig/finding_your_identity_as_a_man/
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