God agrees with MGTOW

chris8111 · 2018-01-11T11:40:44+00:00

“I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” (1 Timothy...

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In my country there is a motto: Si la mujer fuera buena, Dios tendría esposa. (If a woman is good, then God would have a wife)

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Mary's virginity was the ultimate symbol of a woman's value. Her value was in NOT having sex, contrary to every female fertility cult. She was not a single mother, although Joseph was thinking about divorcing her.

There is little that we know about Joseph (Jesus' father), but tradition speaks of his offspring from a previous marriage.

Joseph was allegedly remarried to Mary, likely because he needed someone as a literal biblical "helpmate."

This led ancient scholars to suppose that Joseph was much older than Mary, leading to the possibility that he was in a "caretaker" relationship with her.

Did Joseph get cucked? Not likely. He knew what was going on from a lifetime of experience and a view of marriage that had become utilitarian in his old age.

Talk to some old guys. They'll explain exactly the attitude that Joseph might have had about marriage.

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In Greek mythology (Hesiod's Works and Days) Zeus makes women to punish men for Prometheus gifting them with fire.

"You really delighted in swindling me by stealing the fire, but soon you will find it a curse to yourself and men yet to be...May they all be merry at heart, forever embracing this horror! With a nasty smile, the father of men and gods told famous Hephaestus to hurry, to knead the water and clay, to add human speech and strength, to give it a goddess's form and the lovely face of a maiden...Aphrodite the golden he told to crown her head with desire, but with heartbreak as well, and all the aching sorrow of love. Last of all he had Hermes the herald, the killer of Argus, give her thievish morals, and to add the soul of a bitch (the word in the Greek is female dog not slang)...Till then men had lived on the face of the earth far from all ills, without torment, pain, or dreadful disease, that bring men down to their graves".

It's written in verse but I'm on mobile so I wrote in a paragraph.

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I have no problem with your opinion.

The immoral things were what got them in trouble. If you're referring to God doing immoral things ... there's a reason why there's a lot of repetition in the text. It's to offer a point-of-comparison, because you can see when God says something and somebody speaking for God twists it.

Basically, what the Bible describes is people continually screwing up when they've been given a clear path to follow. The book of 1 Samuel has a lot of apparent contradictions like these. If you look at it in literary terms, there's a lot of use of the "unreliable narrator," due to the point that even supposed holy people were screwed up because of sin.

I find it odd that most humanists place so much faith in people. If anything, I'm an equal-opportunity skeptic: if everyone is a sinner, then isn't that a much more accurate place to start regarding corrupted human behavior? The Bible was written with the expectation that you will be a skeptic. It has different genres, and a variety of purposes when it describes God.

Without going into too much detail, faith is described in the Bible as "hope in things unseen." So it's an open-ended process.

Here's a rough analogy: I stop for traffic lights. When I proceed on green, I have faith that other people will stop. It's so common, it's rather mundane. It doesn't mean that the stoplight wasn't engineered on scientific principles, or that the stoplight isn't a social norm, or that people don't run red lights and break the law. It does mean that our ability to trust in things we don't have complete control over can be warranted.

Same way with God. God's not going to demand you believe in him. But it's an open-ended process usually described in relational terms.

Suffice it to say, gynocentrism has become a false religion. It emphasizes the power a woman has over life (fertility cult) and death (suicide cult). The woman receives the benefit of being a goddess. I would venture to say that most suicide bombers are so blue-pilled and inceled, they think that getting 70 virgins in heaven is a good thing.

I could write more, but it would take too long.

Think of God in male terms, and monotheism makes more sense.

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Until the Enlightenment and the scientific method, men had little defense against a woman's perfectionist demands.

"Perfect is the enemy of the good." --Voltaire

Once we started ramping up technology with a common method, things took off for men.

But before that, we had to decide how to think in common about God. So men came to the conclusion about monotheism: which is where the major Abrahamic religions came from ... guys wandering around in the desert, "Doing their own thing," and coming to epiphanies when God talks to them "man-to-man."

In fact, in the book of the prophet Jeremiah, he describes how God has withdrawn help and that the Israelites need to leave and go to another country if they wish to follow God-- in captivity, if they defy God's call to action. Redpill or bluepill, it was MGTOW call to action.

Hinduism and Buddhism are largely philosophies about variations in ultimate reality, not about an ultimate god-person. We could discuss nuances, but that would be beyond the scope of my comment.

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No, Catholics did and they weren't Christians. Even Yeshua Im'manu'el states that he will not recognize them. I give you Matthew 7:15-23.

15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

Burning witches ^<sup>Exodus</sup> ^<sup>22:18</sup> is not okay as Gentile Christians are not under Mosaic law. I give you Acts 15:15-19 which James the Lesser, Yeshua's brother, hands down the verdict of the Council of Jerusalem that puts Gentiles under Noachide Law not Mosaic Law.

15 The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:

16 “‘After this I will return

and rebuild David’s fallen tent.

Its ruins I will rebuild,

and I will restore it,

17 that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,

even all the Gentiles who bear my name,

says the Lord, who does these things’[b]—

18 things known from long ago.[c]

19 “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood.

Noachide Law is in Genesis chapter 9.

You want to try again?

I never called you a name. Did you want me to?

Where do you get your morality from? Do you think murder, rape, etc... are all wrong? If so then who determined it for you?

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Slavery is a fact of life in all but the western world. Paul, Christ, and God taught that slaves were to treat their masters as they treated God. Also, slavery in Israel was a 7 year deal that on the 7th year the slave was freed. Only Rome and other pagan cultures had lifetime slavery.
Romans 1:32 is referring to spiritual death i.e. the complete and total separation of a sinner from God. Nice try though.
Matthew 15:4 isn't Paul, but Yeshua Im'manu'el. You also took his statement out of context to push your hatred of God. Maybe you should read the entire thing in context before making your judgment? Naw, you just hate God for the sake of hating God.

3Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition? 4For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’a and ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’b 5But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is ‘devoted to God,’ 6they are not to ‘honor their father or mother’ with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:

8“ ‘These people honor me with their lips,

but their hearts are far from me.

9They worship me in vain;

their teachings are merely human rules.’c ”

10Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen and understand.

11What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but

what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them.”

As one can see that Yeshua was calling out the Pharisees on their hypocrisy of do as I say, but not as I do.

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Too bad christianity is not enforced by the sword.

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Title	God agrees with MGTOW
Author	chris8111
Upvotes	130
Comments	133
Date	January 11, 2018 11:40 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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