Good summary

There's an entire population of very angry middle aged and old women out there who bought into Germaine Greer's bullshit about 'having it all' and are now paying the price for it. Loneliness, bitterness, pink hair, loose shawls and endless numbers of cats are what define those women's realities.

Today's feminists, cultural marxists and social justice warriors will just be even bigger and angrier versions of them.

I thank the gods I found out the truth about women's nature and how society slowly bends to it's influence for validation - even if it means it's own eventual disintegration and terminal decline. That's where Western and other developed nations are now - in near permanent decline because men sold out their power for validation from women.

Add the fact that women who are educated for a minimum of 12 years have below population replacement levels of children (confirmed by multiple feminist studies themselves!) and this is why developed nations eventually enter permanent decline and politicans start demanding mass immigration.

The only reason women have more rights today is because men of decades past were weak during times of relative plenty. There is no other reason. If women truly were equal to men they would have had equal rights thousands of years ago already.

MGTOW is about the recognition of this giant shit show that is unfolding and playing the 'game' for maximum political, social and economic advantage for men.

Just a little truth there for ya :)

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You're missing the point though. It isn't that developed nations aren't having 'more' kids. It's that developed nations aren't even having enough kids to replace the current population that they already have!

The reason why politicians are obsessed with mass immigration is because of the welfare spending black hole that will happen without enough people being born. Too many old people who need looking after and not enough tax payers or indeed younger people to work and pay those taxes. That's not to even mention what would happen to the economy generally!

Well if you want people to have fewer to no kids at all, just educate all their women for a minimum of 12 years and hey presto. One feminist study even noted this effect on women in Ethiopia and other African nations where previously birth rates were very high.

If Western women want to keep their liberal freedoms (their culture/civilization) then they need to have more kids otherwise a more patriarchal society takes the place of the dying one and women's rights would be the first things to disappear in war and collapse. It's a numbers game.

Can you think of a patriarchal culture that doesn't educate its women and has lots of kids who are all too happy to spread their values system over others? :)

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First of all you need to de-program yourself of the idea that there is such a thing as 'equality'. It does not and will never exist. It is impossible to perfectly balance the distribution of 'power' between every single person/nation/ethnicity/sex/religion or whatever on this planet. Someone or some group will always have more power than another at some time whether it is in arms, wealth, resources, knowledge etc. Inequality between the sexes however is genetic and this is why women of any and all cultures of the world naturally fall into more subservient roles. This changes though when there is a surplus of men in the population and a surplus of resources/living standards. As the phenomenon of 'war' disappears greater numbers of men find it harder to win validation from women - and so men start giving women rights, which eventually leads to what I described earlier (decline and below replacement birth rates). Other nations like Japan are also going through this period. Even China is starting to have problems with theirs as education levels rise along with living standards.

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This really doesn't make any sense, being genetically stronger than someone else does not make someone superior or inferior. We do not live the ages anymore where women need men to protect them so this whole argument is invalid, even with that argument wouldn't that mean that African people should have the most power because they are the strongest race?. No, because that's not how the world works. The whole MGTOW movement is ignorant, men are claiming that they don't hate women and say they only want to get away from them but continue to bash them like every woman is the same and only want people for what they have when men and women are no different. Perfect equality doesn't exist but you can still get to the point where most people are equal. Equality isn't a gift you give someone it is a right everyone is entitled to.

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You need to study up more and look at the IQ differences between men and women generally (for example). Men on average score a bit higher than women in IQ and also reach higher stages of moral development. Both of these facts have been confirmed by multiple studies. More male genius' are born than female one's as well.

Being stronger in itself is technically a 'superiority' when compared to physical weakness in that specific context. You can certainly argue that overall it doesn't make someone superior from a moral viewpoint but then it all depends on your perspective, culture, sex and so on. To women physical strength is one of the oldest positive traits in a man. So you may judge someone on more than just strength but women certainly give it great weight. They may say otherwise but biology and evolution tell the real truth. But physical strength isn't the only thing that separates men from women as I mentioned earlier.

"We do not live the ages anymore where women need men to protect them"

This is 100% incorrect and I think you already know it. Women rely far more on police, the government and laws to protect them than men do in a society. It is men who are still expected to be drafted to war and risk their lives for women back home.

It is the absence of war in society that allows the male population to expand to much greater numbers than would otherwise be around. This gives women greater choice and so it becomes more difficult for the average man to stand out in any way especially when women are looking mostly at the top 20-25% of men (hypergamy). This then gives birth to the male feminist - the 'ally' of women who thinks that by supporting women and giving them rights he will stand out more. A male feminist is nothing more than a mating strategy. Even feminists accuse these men of dishonesty and they're right to do so! Male feminists don't really care about women's rights, what they really care about is the validation they hope to get from women that may somehow allow them to cheat the system and snatch a high value woman (or indeed any woman).

The essence of the Red Pill is understanding that young women chase the top 20% of men until those men are no longer interested in them. Then when those young women turn 30 one day they suddenly turn their attentions to the provider 'beta' males who they didn't look at twice when younger. This is the Alpha fucks Beta bucks phenomenon and it's all based on hypergamy. Women do not love men and not even Alpha males. Men are a tool for survival to them and that is all.

Read around more and I promise you it will make sense when you've connected all the dots together.

Men and women are not equal and never will be. Different certainly but not equal.

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This reply ignores all other factors that exist in the world. You say a Male feminist is nothing more than a mating strategy but what about gay men that support feminism, not everyone that supports something wants something out of it like people who themselves would never get an abortion but are still pro choice. Relying on police and the system does not make you weaker and the draft is an old concept people are trying to get draft laws changed for a reason. IQ does not make men superior to women especially since women generally score higher on emotion intelligence test than men. There are so many different people on this planet so to say women chase the top 20% of men is idiotic considering there are lesbians, trans men and trans women. Theres no such thing as alpha males and beta males, humans are way to complex to be put in these categories, it's just a way for people to think they are better than others. The red pill is just a philosophy which means it doesn't make it true. No one is truly equal but that doesn't mean we're not on the same level, everyone deserves rights and to say women shouldn't have the same rights as men is very ignorant.

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Title	Good summary
Author	nulom
Upvotes	1382
Comments	90
Date	January 26, 2019 10:06 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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