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Why?! Dude?! Now I'm traumatized for life.

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Left garbage can represents a young woman with little to no sexual partners who does not want to get married because she wants to get gang banged by every guy possible. She uses the phrase “finding myself” which really means act like a whore. She hasn’t done it yet though so the narrow can opening represents a tight and lightly used vagina. The can on the right represents a now loose and used vagina after she has “found herself” and slept with a bunch of guys and has finished her whore phase. Only now she wants to commit to a man after being used which is laughable because now she has little to no value as a wife.

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I had sex last night, what do you mean?

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There's an entire population of very angry middle aged and old women out there who bought into Germaine Greer's bullshit about 'having it all' and are now paying the price for it. Loneliness, bitterness, pink hair, loose shawls and endless numbers of cats are what define those women's realities.

Today's feminists, cultural marxists and social justice warriors will just be even bigger and angrier versions of them.

I thank the gods I found out the truth about women's nature and how society slowly bends to it's influence for validation - even if it means it's own eventual disintegration and terminal decline. That's where Western and other developed nations are now - in near permanent decline because men sold out their power for validation from women.

Add the fact that women who are educated for a minimum of 12 years have below population replacement levels of children (confirmed by multiple feminist studies themselves!) and this is why developed nations eventually enter permanent decline and politicans start demanding mass immigration.

The only reason women have more rights today is because men of decades past were weak during times of relative plenty. There is no other reason. If women truly were equal to men they would have had equal rights thousands of years ago already.

MGTOW is about the recognition of this giant shit show that is unfolding and playing the 'game' for maximum political, social and economic advantage for men.

Just a little truth there for ya :)

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so... you're a racist too? what other reason would there be for preferring "population replacement levels of children" over simply bringing in the required labor force from other countries?

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on a global scale and from an ecological point of view, encouraging humans anywhere to have more kids just doesn't make sense to me, since we have more than enough already. the survival of our planet seems more important than the artificial preservation of a perceived notion of cultural purity. what is this "civilization", this "culture" you're afraid we might lose? is it a language? a religious custom? and yeah, japan is pretty racist from what i've heard.

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You're missing the point though. It isn't that developed nations aren't having 'more' kids. It's that developed nations aren't even having enough kids to replace the current population that they already have!

The reason why politicians are obsessed with mass immigration is because of the welfare spending black hole that will happen without enough people being born. Too many old people who need looking after and not enough tax payers or indeed younger people to work and pay those taxes. That's not to even mention what would happen to the economy generally!

Well if you want people to have fewer to no kids at all, just educate all their women for a minimum of 12 years and hey presto. One feminist study even noted this effect on women in Ethiopia and other African nations where previously birth rates were very high.

If Western women want to keep their liberal freedoms (their culture/civilization) then they need to have more kids otherwise a more patriarchal society takes the place of the dying one and women's rights would be the first things to disappear in war and collapse. It's a numbers game.

Can you think of a patriarchal culture that doesn't educate its women and has lots of kids who are all too happy to spread their values system over others? :)

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Education also tends to whittle down religious extremism and patriarchical values. Look at how soft Catholicism has gotten. Put every boy in school for 12 years and they'll find themselves better things to do than oppress, stab and throw acid in women's faces.

But I'm interested to hear what solution you would suggest?

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First of all you need to de-program yourself of the idea that there is such a thing as 'equality'. It does not and will never exist. It is impossible to perfectly balance the distribution of 'power' between every single person/nation/ethnicity/sex/religion or whatever on this planet. Someone or some group will always have more power than another at some time whether it is in arms, wealth, resources, knowledge etc. Inequality between the sexes however is genetic and this is why women of any and all cultures of the world naturally fall into more subservient roles. This changes though when there is a surplus of men in the population and a surplus of resources/living standards. As the phenomenon of 'war' disappears greater numbers of men find it harder to win validation from women - and so men start giving women rights, which eventually leads to what I described earlier (decline and below replacement birth rates). Other nations like Japan are also going through this period. Even China is starting to have problems with theirs as education levels rise along with living standards.

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This really doesn't make any sense, being genetically stronger than someone else does not make someone superior or inferior. We do not live the ages anymore where women need men to protect them so this whole argument is invalid, even with that argument wouldn't that mean that African people should have the most power because they are the strongest race?. No, because that's not how the world works. The whole MGTOW movement is ignorant, men are claiming that they don't hate women and say they only want to get away from them but continue to bash them like every woman is the same and only want people for what they have when men and women are no different. Perfect equality doesn't exist but you can still get to the point where most people are equal. Equality isn't a gift you give someone it is a right everyone is entitled to.

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You need to study up more and look at the IQ differences between men and women generally (for example). Men on average score a bit higher than women in IQ and also reach higher stages of moral development. Both of these facts have been confirmed by multiple studies. More male genius' are born than female one's as well.

Being stronger in itself is technically a 'superiority' when compared to physical weakness in that specific context. You can certainly argue that overall it doesn't make someone superior from a moral viewpoint but then it all depends on your perspective, culture, sex and so on. To women physical strength is one of the oldest positive traits in a man. So you may judge someone on more than just strength but women certainly give it great weight. They may say otherwise but biology and evolution tell the real truth. But physical strength isn't the only thing that separates men from women as I mentioned earlier.

"We do not live the ages anymore where women need men to protect them"

This is 100% incorrect and I think you already know it. Women rely far more on police, the government and laws to protect them than men do in a society. It is men who are still expected to be drafted to war and risk their lives for women back home.

It is the absence of war in society that allows the male population to expand to much greater numbers than would otherwise be around. This gives women greater choice and so it becomes more difficult for the average man to stand out in any way especially when women are looking mostly at the top 20-25% of men (hypergamy). This then gives birth to the male feminist - the 'ally' of women who thinks that by supporting women and giving them rights he will stand out more. A male feminist is nothing more than a mating strategy. Even feminists accuse these men of dishonesty and they're right to do so! Male feminists don't really care about women's rights, what they really care about is the validation they hope to get from women that may somehow allow them to cheat the system and snatch a high value woman (or indeed any woman).

The essence of the Red Pill is understanding that young women chase the top 20% of men until those men are no longer interested in them. Then when those young women turn 30 one day they suddenly turn their attentions to the provider 'beta' males who they didn't look at twice when younger. This is the Alpha fucks Beta bucks phenomenon and it's all based on hypergamy. Women do not love men and not even Alpha males. Men are a tool for survival to them and that is all.

Read around more and I promise you it will make sense when you've connected all the dots together.

Men and women are not equal and never will be. Different certainly but not equal.

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This reply ignores all other factors that exist in the world. You say a Male feminist is nothing more than a mating strategy but what about gay men that support feminism, not everyone that supports something wants something out of it like people who themselves would never get an abortion but are still pro choice. Relying on police and the system does not make you weaker and the draft is an old concept people are trying to get draft laws changed for a reason. IQ does not make men superior to women especially since women generally score higher on emotion intelligence test than men. There are so many different people on this planet so to say women chase the top 20% of men is idiotic considering there are lesbians, trans men and trans women. Theres no such thing as alpha males and beta males, humans are way to complex to be put in these categories, it's just a way for people to think they are better than others. The red pill is just a philosophy which means it doesn't make it true. No one is truly equal but that doesn't mean we're not on the same level, everyone deserves rights and to say women shouldn't have the same rights as men is very ignorant.

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You say a Male feminist is nothing more than a mating strategy but what about gay men that support feminism

So what about them? Straight men supporting - and more importantly to them - being seen to be supporting feminism is more rampant every year on college campuses in every Western country. Straight men are feminists because they think it gets them validation, acceptance and hopefully pussy. That's it!

"Relying on police and the system does not make you weaker"

It doesn't make someone weaker but it does indicate vulnerability, which of course every person has to a degree but women more so. Feminists are also resisting the draft/conscription as well because they only want laws that benefit women. Some nutcases actually have called for equality in the draft/conscription but are quickly shouted down by women and men who know just how dumb an idea it really is.

"women generally score higher on emotion intelligence test than men"

Of course they do. This is partly why men score a bit higher in IQ on average and why mens moral development goes further. Women generally operate on care-based morality and base all of their decisions of it. This is why women love to vote for socialist sounding policies, because the idea of 'looking after everyone' fits neatly into their moral system. Women make up around 52% of voting populations in most countries and it is their votes that drive policy and the creep towards welfare states, nanny government and socialism. Look at the sheer outrage over Trump's election simply because the US dared to elect a straight alpha male who doesn't filter his speech and stoop to feminism. He is everything their own moral systems detest. The irony of course is that it is exactly that kind of man they are attracted to but don't really know why (alpha males in general). In his infamous pussy grabbing video he even says the exact words 'they let you' because they do! Women love surrendering to powerful men.

"There are so many different people on this planet so to say women chase the top 20% of men is idiotic considering there are lesbians, trans men and trans women."

I'm talking about ordinary straight women. Why would you think I'm also talking about lesbians as well?! That is what is really idiotic!

"everyone deserves rights and to say women shouldn't have the same rights as men is very ignorant."

No it's very realistic. It's why every single ancient culture in the entire world restricted women's rights. They knew that as soon as women believe they are equal to men their societies days are numbered. Birth rates drop, relationships collapse, mating strategies move back towards more primitive hypergamy. Then one day the women are surrendering themselves to the new men who have conquered and moved into their nation. Women's rights and feminism is literally a shit test but on a national scale. The more rights women gain the more contempt those women show for their own men who they now think (correctly) are weak. That is the very essence of a shit test.

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How is denying people rights realistic? The reason why almost every single culture denied womens rights is because they didnt know any better. Those cultures also kept slaves does that mean we should go back to that to? You are so wrapped up in your own narrcism think that women are just second class citizens. Everyone. Deserves. Rights. Who are you to say they don't? People don't like Trump because he's sexist and ignorant not because hes an 'alpha male' someone who thinks its appropriate to say they are going to sexually assault someone, man or women, should never be in power. It's not catering to feminism its being a decent human being. Women like powerful men WHO RESPECT THEM, the ones who like to be degraded like that literally have mental health issues. And the reason why men on campuses supporting feminism is not because they want pussy it's because I don't know they want a group of people to be treated as equals because they are.

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No they denied women rights because they could not (and would not) take responsibility. Just like feminists today who want all the rights and benefits but none of the responsibility. Nothing is ever a woman's fault in their eyes and it's because women are just bigger children. You don't put children in charge of anything important! Just look at Sweden - the worlds first 'all feminist' government and now Sweden is close to becoming a failed state with rampant crime and religious fundamentalism. Sweden's population is small and that is why the effects of feminism are showing so clearly on that nation.

In Trump's video he literally says 'they let you' strongly implying consent. The moment a man starts respecting women however then women start to lose respect for him because that is beta behaviour. If he was a real alpha male, why would he respect less capable women? Respecting women subconsciously signals to women that something is wrong with him.

"the ones who like to be degraded like that literally have mental health issues"

Did you know that rape is the absolute number one female fantasy? No you didn't did you. It's why the Fifty Shades series sold so well amongst women. Replace the male character with a beta male McDonalds worker however and it wouldn't have sold anywhere near as well.

The only men who support feminism are brainwashed simps who really, really don't understand female nature. They lie to themselves and refuse to accept reality because reality is ugly. The real way in which male and female relationships work is tremendously ugly. That is why the Red Pill is hard to swallow, but it is ultimately worth the effort.

Haven't you ever wondered why nice guys (beta males) are starved of female companionship except from the bottom 20% women? It's because around 80% men are invisible to most women. Most women are chasing only 20-25% men and will just use 'nice guys' as slaves and simps to get what they want economically and politically but not sexually.

Only when a woman is approaching the wall and the end of her fertility period (30's) does she then look to settle down and make a more beta male her provider. She has to because all the men she used to chase are no longer interested in her and will not provide her. Then after a few years of marriage and a few kids she then realises she doesn't need the beta male anymore and divorces him for most of his wealth and screams to government for more welfare through voting.

That is the truth!

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Oh my lord I don't even know why I'm arguing with someone with such a jaded view of life. "Alpha males" and "Beta males" DO NOT EXIST. Human personality is too complex the world isnt black and white. The fifty shades of grey book is not based on rape it's based on bdsm which is CONSENSUAL, having a fantasy does NOT mean you want it done to you that's why it's a fantasy. Rape is rape nobody wants it actually done do them, its traumatic. The women you're talking about who won't take responsibility is a very small percentage but you only see it because that's what's being shown on the media, even "facts" are subjective, and you're taking ONE example of a country ran by women so how could you possibly know that a country ran by women would be any worse than a country ran by men. You could easily take this whole argument and replace it with white and black people, the thing that let's people succeed is opportunity and women have just recently gotten the opportunity to be free so how could you possibly know that women and any better or worse than men. You obviously see the world in a very skewed way.

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"Oh my lord I don't even know why I'm arguing with someone with such a jaded view of life."

Maybe it's because really you know that I am speaking truth but your brain hasn't caught up yet.

How can you go on lying to yourself like this? It sounds more like you are trying to convince yourself than me. Just because you're probably a nice guy won't make women want to touch your pee pee any more than if you weren't nice. In fact being a male feminist signals to women submission and unworthiness making her dryer than the Sahara desert. Feminism is ultimately a shit test and modern men fall for it because they think it is progressive and what women really want and are better than other men. It is the greatest con in modern history. What women say and what they do are almost always very different things.

It goes Alpha > Beta > Omega with various shades in between. But what makes a man fall into a particular category depends mostly on what women perceive you to be offering (or not offering).

The whole basis of Fifty Shades is domination not consent. It fulfils the number one female fantasy of rape. It's domination but only by the type of man women want to be dominated by. Women want rich alpha males and nobody else. As I said if the male character was a McDonalds worker instead it would instantly turn into a horror/crime story. The line between consensual and crime for women depends on how good looking/wealthy the man is. Indeed if he really was a McDonalds worker he probably would never even be in a position to BDSM a pretty woman anyway!

"The women you're talking about who won't take responsibility is a very small percentage"

Hahahahaha!

"How could you possibly know that a country ran by women would be any worse than a country ran by men."

Sweden isn't alone but it's the first country in the world to be run by feminists and now it's total shit. Their birth rate is rock bottom and they have taken huge numbers of immigrants over the last ten years. With such a small population anyway the effects of the feminist/socialist cancer appear much sooner and more starkly.

Almost all Western countries are in the same position as Sweden - just not quite as far down the road. Western countries have cucked their own men, feminised their governments, want more nanny-state government to intervene and dictate peoples choices and it will only get worse and worse and worse. Just look at the Yellow Vest protest in France - that is only the beginning! The shit show is only just unfolding and there is no way to stop it unless women's rights are taken away.

There is no other way!

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I know A LOT of dudes who are feminists that get major pussy because women like to be respected, not every little thing is a shit test. Do you seriously think that people fighting for their right to be treated equally is just to fuck men, I don't even know if I'm talking to a troll right now because your sense of reality is totally twisted. If course the fifty shades of grey has an attractive rich dude doing BDSM because it's a fantasy and I'm sure if a McDonalds worker acted like a "beta male" but was hot girls would be all over them, you dont even need to be hot, just have a great personality and you could get girls it's not as hard as you think it is honestly. Do you really think its women that our causing our world to go to shit, it's been going down hill from the beginning. It's also funny you assume I'm a "nice guy" or something because I think people are entitled to rights

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I know A LOT of dudes who are feminists that get major pussy because women like to be respected

Hahahahahahaha! The best joke I've heard in months.

The vast majority of male feminists are mangina's who are so desperate and pathetic they are grateful to even to lick out their ham-beast girlfriend after she has been with the bull that night already. The best part about that however is that I'm not even exaggerating!

"Do you seriously think that people fighting for their right to be treated equally is just to fuck men"

Feminism is a supremacy ideology. Feminists lie deliberately about wanting 'equality'. They don't want true equality they want preferential treatment. Period.

"I don't even know if I'm talking to a troll right now because your sense of reality is totally twisted."

I can assure you I am not a troll and my eyes see reality plainly. The only twisted person is you! It's obvious you've swallowed the confused, emotional 'women are wonderful' brainwashing.

"if a McDonalds worker acted like a "beta male" but was hot girls would be all over them"

Now you're getting it! Way to go there with your new found Red Pill knowledge. The chances of a man being hot though are small and this is why women only chase 20-25% of men.

"you dont even need to be hot, just have a great personality and you could get girls it's not as hard as you think it is honestly."

And here's where you fall down again. Personality counts for almost 0 when it comes to attracting women (a sense of humour however does count for more). Only men with no looks/money/power rely on personality. Women just don;t care how nice a guy you are. Just look at male serial killers - they get tons of female fans all wanting to marry them. Even Ted Bundy had trembling teenage girls showing up to his court appearances and even married a single mother who defended him whilst he was in jail. Wake up dude. Women love cruel, evil men but will say the opposite to maintain a respectable public face. The absolute Golden Rule with women is to watch what they do, not listen to what they say. Then you will see every time I promise you.

"Do you really think its women that our causing our world to go to shit"

Women's rights was the beginning of the decline for many developed nations. It's taken a long time but as soon as women are educated for a minimum of 12 years a nations birth rates bottom out to below replacement levels. Meanwhile women as 52% of all voters increasingly vote for bigger government, welfare and socialism. The state slowly replaces men as the 'providers' over time. Then one day politicians and bankers decide that the only way they can keep the population going is through mass immigration and effectively replace it's existing population. They do this because it's far easier politically than advocating taking womens rights away or asking them to make more children. Any politician going against feminism and womens rights would be suicide in developed Western countries. No it's far easier for them to advocate mass immigration and virtue signal how good they are as people for inviting in the poor, hard done by Jihadists from Syria.

I thoroughly recommend you check out some of the early 'Red Pill' videos on the internet. One of the first one;s that opened my eyes was the 'Men not marrying? How deep does the problem go?' video by Karen Straughan on YouTube. That was my first major introduction to the real picture of what is happening in society. She's supposedly a Men's Right's Activist but they might as well be beating their heads against a wall. That video though is very, very good.

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The vast majority of male feminists are mangina's who are so desperate and pathetic they are grateful to even to lick out their ham-beast girlfriend after she has been with the bull that night already

You could literally say the same thing but reverse it if a women was in a toxic relationship with a man.

It's obvious you've swallowed the confused, emotional 'women are wonderful' brainwashing.

I don't think and will never think all women are wonderful and I feel the same about men because I see them as EQUALS. Men can be just as shitty and women.

Personality counts for almost 0 when it comes to attracting women. Only men with no looks/money/power rely on personality.

This is complete horseshit not every woman wants a hunky dude with millions of dollars there are pleaty of women who date based on personality.

Just look at male serial killers - they get tons of female fans all wanting to marry them.

This is literally a mental condition. Look it up.

Any politician going against feminism and womens rights would be suicide in developed Western countries.

Maybe because its denying someone human rights???

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Did you watch the video I mentioned in my last post at the bottom? It even mentions the now infamous OkCupid survey of women who rated 80% men as below average in looks. It's the little facts that give away the bigger picture of how women size up men. Comparable surveys showed a much more even distribution of looks when men rated women (most women scored as average but had an even bell curve).

There's people who deny evidence when placed directly in front of them and we call those people brainwashed (that's you).

"This is complete horseshit not every woman wants a hunky dude with millions of dollars there are pleaty of women who date based on personality."

Women want the best man they can find and will always trade/marry up (hypergamy). Women do not choose male mates based on personality. The one's that are must either be the absolute bottom of the barrel (barrel shaped fugly women - and I mean really ugly with no options) or just flat out lying. Categorize a woman on the looks scale and then apply the Golden Rule - don't listen to what she says, watch what she does. Of course pretty women might say they're looking for personality but it is 100% pure bullshit. The types of men she will always go for will be the good looking alpha male types who are not 'nice' guys or quite often don't even have a personality to speak of.

"This is literally a mental condition. Look it up."

Yeah it's called 'female' and 'gina tingles cos dark triad'.

"Maybe because its denying someone human rights???"

No it's because most of the voting population is made up of women and brainwashed simps who will white knight and cuck themselves for the almighty vagina.

Watch the video!

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Title	Good summary
Author	nulom
Upvotes	1382
Comments	106
Date	January 26, 2019 10:06 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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