How do you guys protect yourselves from false rape accusations?

inb4potatoes · 2019-01-18T23:21:22+00:00

The Mike Pence rule is pretty effective

CyborgHermit · 2019-01-18T23:18:16+00:00

Don’t allow yourself to be in a room, alone, with a woman at any time, unless you are 100% confident they wouldn’t accuse you of anything. So that really filters out everyone but your siblings or mother.

DangZagnut · 2019-01-18T23:22:39+00:00

Abstinence and avoiding proximity are the only real ways, and even then a woman can just lie about it.

Personally, I make videos of my sexual encounters, not just "consent" nonsense, but the entire act. I live to make videos of shit going on, and sex is no different.

If I was ever to be accused, she'd have to explain to a lot of people why she did all the perverted acts she did, completely of her own free will. Court admissibility is irrelevant.

icemanthrowaway123 · 2019-01-18T23:20:56+00:00

Surveillance is cheap nowadays as is off site storage. Keep an alibi for every hour of every day.

As for workplaces, keep it professional and report any moves made by coworkers THE INSTANT they happen.

These two simple things won't take your chances to zero, but will greatly improve your odds of survival.

stevemnicely33410 · 2019-01-18T23:22:02+00:00

Keep all texts, record meets, record encounters, ensure you game the conversation to include “I hope you had fun baby?” and get her to admit she loved getting plowed ASAP after you pump her.

DWShimoda · 2019-01-19T00:18:29+00:00

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Gibits · 2019-01-19T02:40:38+00:00

Honestly you can’t. You can disprove them by having witnesses and recordings but you can’t stop the accusations themselves. And with the whole “just believe her” movement going on that might not be enough. Still having witnesses does discourage false reporting.

RainmanMcmillin · 2019-01-18T23:22:54+00:00

Google Voice. Shadow a phone # and it keeps texts and even some VMs. Not big among the tinfoil VPN paranoia crowd, but that's the irony.

I have messages from women I dated over ten years ago.

KarosGraveyard · 2019-01-19T02:49:25+00:00

You can’t protect yourself 100% from it. The best thing you can do is avoid contact with women (especially the “sTRonG iNdePenDeNt” type) unless you really have to (career, clients, etc.).

Never allow yourself to be alone with a woman even if it’s business. Mike Pence rule.

Never talk about how much money you make or your job. Don’t give them a reason to target you for your money.

Older_Miggy · 2019-01-19T01:54:13+00:00

By having nothing to do with women, especially romantically.

Orionish · 2019-01-19T03:46:07+00:00

Don't be attractive to women. Hide your wealth, hide you physique, alter your personality. Stealth and target priority reduction.

DWShimoda · 2019-01-19T07:15:12+00:00

With the number of false rape accusations escalating I need tips to be protected if possible 100% guaranteed protection from them as a MGTOW.

No such thing as a 100% guarantee of anything in this life... well except death & taxes (you can avoid them, evade them, delay them, dodge them... but sooner or later both will get you).

But, what you CAN do -- and here we're talking actually living your life AS a "MGTOW" (and not simply calling yourself that because you "like the idea of what the label implies") -- is to both (1) dramatically LOWER your risk of being accused of such to begin with; and then (2) secondarily of substantially INCREASING your ability to raise a valid defense against such, should it occur.

The combination will be shy of 100%... but not by much; it SHOULD be somewhere close to 99% if not higher.

You AVOID any & all "relationships" with women -- as much as possible -- this not only means NO marriage, and NO LTR's, NO "cohabiting", NO "live in girlfriend"... but also NO STR's, NO ONS's, NO "dating" and NO "hookups"; NO "plate spinning" NO FWB's, and also... NO "casual friendships" with women; period. You're goal in fact to to essentially be "invisible" to women -- so that they essentially don't even THINK about your existence -- to NOT have any of them in the core of your life (and NEVER within the walls of your home), but NOT have any who would ever even remotely consider calling you up, or dropping by your place, much less asking you for some "favor" or have any expectations regarding you at all. Ideally few women (beyond those in your immediate family) will even know your name, have any idea where you live, what you drive, etc.
You "document" certain things in your life...

TRAVEL: a manually maintained, ideally hand written, personal or vehicle "log book" -- noting vehicle (or service, bike/bus/car/plane/taxi/uber whatever) along with date, time, mileage & location* for every departure, arrival or "stop"* (takes about 5 to 10 seconds per entry) -- or else an archived GPS tracking log (ironically the former is probably easier to do & requires LESS effort to maintain than the latter). BTW that is EASILY justified as being done "for tax purposes" (i.e. vehicle "business vs personal mileage" expenses/deductions); plus it can be backed up by various "receipts" from shopping (both of those can be CRITICAL regarding the admissibility & persuasiveness of them as evidence in your defense).

SURVEILLANCE cameras (at your home/apt): A bit more difficult to actually maintain on an archival basis (especially long term, years & decades worth)... nevertheless the mere existence* of a security/surveillance camera system (covering at the very least the main entrances {interior and exterior} of your home, as well as the main "living room" area of it) has value... and of course this is EASILY justified just for general "safety/security" reasons (unlike say "consent" videos).

How can this help? Well, presuming the allegation/accusation is a RECENT one... footage (like the TRAVEL log book) can either prove that (A) you were NOT at the location the woman claims on that date/time; (B) you WERE somewhere else entirely (likely a significant distance away); (C) you WERE home at the time; and/or (D) the woman making the allegation was NOT at your home on the date & time claimed... or if she somehow WAS there, that she arrived & left of her own volition, that she additional came AND then left in a perfectly "normal" state (i.e. obviously NOT 'frightened' or 'disheveled' or etc -- IOW not a victim of rape or abuse). Likewise the entry AND indoor footage should show that she never even entered your home (because see above, you're NOT stupid enough to let her inside), or if you WERE stupid enough to allow that (or she snuck in some window) that NOTHING happened inside either.

* The mere existence of such security/surveillance cameras -- and thus the POSSIBILITY of contradictory footage -- can be used to cause her to "break" her prior allegation... that is change her story, possibly even admit it is a complete fabrication, that is to say a "lie." (No guarantee of that, but even the possibility of such independent "objective" evidence often does work that way.)

[deleted] · 2019-01-19T07:56:40+00:00

I don’t socialize with women in any capacity unless it’s a woman who is with one of my friends. But I will not speak to or acknowledge a woman in any social setting.

SingleManDR · 2019-01-19T07:57:53+00:00

pay hookers. They like money. They want more money. They have a very clear motive for not putting you in jail.

DigitalScetis · 2019-01-19T00:22:05+00:00

Get her on cameras.

The cameras that are going to help you aren't the ones you own; the ones you don't own are the things which will expose her lies for the lies they are.

Bars. Restaurants. Street cameras. Hotel lobbies. Elevators. If I had to choose what footage would be more exculpatory, a tape of her inside the bedroom, or tapes of her before entering the residence, and after she leaves, I'd think the before and after footage would expose her more than what went on inside.

Because here's the thing. For as much as we say how easy it is for a woman to make up a rape story, she actually has a very difficult job. You see, she has to make up the story, and then hope the facts that are investigated later support the story. This was easy (or perhaps "easier") to do back when we didn't have security cameras everywhere. But now that we do, there's things to examine which can be used to blow garbage can sized holes of doubt in her story.

Did she say she suffered a "blackout" from drinking? You know, motor control fails long, long before blackouts; you'd be passed out on the floor unable to move before you could suffer the kind of blackout amnesia she said she had. So if she was suffering from a near comatose level of alcohol poisoning, why do the cameras show her walking under her own power without a stumble when they get to his place? Because she was never blacked out, that's why.

Did she complain of beatings and force? You know, if she was beaten, or excessive force was used, then why do the tapes show her walking away from his place in good health, without any noticeable limp or pain?

Did she talk in her statement about the shame she felt, and how she became introverted and fearful? Then why do the cameras show her in the hotel lobby the next morning laughing and having brunch with her gal pals over pinot grigio and crepes?

These cameras everywhere don't stop a woman from filing a complaint and getting an arrest warrant. But a fake account is like a fake wall used on TV; it looks really substantial at first glance, but the more you examine it, the less substantial it looks. And if it isn't the police that take the time to examine it, the legal team of a victim of a false rape accusation has several months to examine it, and all the cameras that show her before and after.

cyndonn66 · 2019-01-19T04:41:30+00:00

Eliminate the risks.

[deleted] · 2019-01-19T06:31:56+00:00

Nothing is 100% effective when any woman or girl can simply make up anything they like, and we all hafta "believe the victim" even if there's no evidence whatsoever.

If you're both on camera and there's a shop counter between you, you're probably safe as long as you stick to what's on the menu or in your shopping cart.

Out in public, I make an obvious point of avoiding girls, women (and especially women together), children and families. I'll cross the street or make some other overt move within their plain view, so it even looks like I'm doing exactly what I'm doing. I might also check my watch and note the time, or put my hand on my camera, just in case.

SingleManDR · 2019-01-19T07:58:10+00:00

pay hookers. They like money. They want more money. They have a very clear motive for not putting you in jail.

How do you guys protect yourselves from false rape accusations?

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You have REALLY SOLID refuting evidence -- then in most cases it probably won't even go to court/before a judge.

Title	How do you guys protect yourselves from false rape accusations?
Author	Adamjensen2030
Upvotes	22
Comments	54
Date	January 18, 2019 11:16 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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