Men hitting "the wall"

Death_Metal_Chuck · 2016-12-31T20:54:36+00:00

Technically the wall doesn't exist for men, it's more like a slope. You can still reproduce and stay in good shape/strength well into older age. It just becomes more difficult to keep it up as time progresses.

JStheHammer · 2016-12-31T20:24:25+00:00

Of course we all get old, fat, and frail.

The point is as a physician you will be much better when are 50. A female that only has her looks will be in a different position.

Fictitiousfallacy · 2016-12-31T20:37:41+00:00

My dad is 71 and still gets around quiet easily as opposed to my uncle and his brother who at 73 can't walk without assistance from another person or his walker. One has heavily smoked and drank his whole life, the other hasn't. It all depends on how you take care of your body. However I do agree, men tend to hit "the wall" at a much later age and at a much slower rate than women.

im_moreofanideaguy · 2016-12-31T21:08:43+00:00

I passed forty so long ago I can barely remember it, but I still lift and do a couple of very grueling outdoor sports. Guess what? My back doesn't hurt. My knees don't hurt. I get by just fine. The fatty twenty and thirty-somethings in the clubs I'm in? They get all tuckered out really fast on the uphills. Same with the sedentary 40+ ladies even if they're not that fat.

tl;dr Work out and keep your calories down somewhere around 2000 a day if you want to age well.

Helikzhan · 2017-01-01T01:37:25+00:00

I'm a tall guy over 6'4" easily. So I look fairly weak to a lot of body builders due to leaner muscles.

What they don't know is that I hide 230lbs very well and I do chin ups every day. My upper body strength is very good due to all the chin ups. So I take them by surprise quite a bit.

I'm in my 40s. Strength is the very last thing to go. Reflexes go first. Then speed. Then stamina. Then the mind in general. But strength is the last.

Klimthourglass · 2016-12-31T22:10:01+00:00

The biggest problem post 40 is maintaining your connective tissue and flexibility. After 40 the health and conditioning of your tendons, ligaments etc might be even more important than training your muscles. Injuries occur more because men don't realize it takes longer to condition connective tissue than muscles, and that conditioning has to be put on higher priority than it did when younger. In my 40s I can still keep up with and often exceed athletes half my age but you have to pay attention to how the body is different.

geocitiesuser · 2016-12-31T20:50:26+00:00

Men physically peak at 31 give or take, but we can continue gaining strength into our early 40s. You will only be able to maintain/slowly lost strength after this.

Don't confuse physical strength with the the ability to fight/wrestle. While strength plays a role it is largely skill based. I have a buddy who is absolutely jacked, but I would prefer his sister in high school back me up in a fight. The man just doesn't know how to fight in any capacity.

geocitiesuser · 2016-12-31T21:43:48+00:00

At 36, physically, I'm of very good athletic ability. That doesn't mean I haven't hit the wall though. The wall relates specifically to Sexual Market Value, and really not much else.

SnarkyFella · 2017-01-01T01:26:05+00:00

There doesn't seem to be much of a "wall" for men. Just a decline starting around 40. Women decline starting around 25 and hit a full on wall at around 40 (I understand this is arguable and not universal)

lonewolf-chicago · 2016-12-31T21:39:22+00:00

Most heavyweight boxing champs became champ at about 32 years if age. Now it is older. Physically men are extending their abilities to 45 and 50. Chuck Norris reported that he couldnt get the splits until he was 40.

Women get fatter... Men get weaker...but a man can be weaker but still healthy. Fat is unhealthy....

Chev__Chelios · 2016-12-31T22:06:07+00:00

There is no "wall" for men. The "wall" has everything to do with fertility. Woman naturally become MUCH less attractive when their eggs run out. That's nature's way of signaling she is no longer a worthy mate. A woman has lost 90% of her eggs by 30 and the risk of birth defects grows by double digit percentages for each year after 35. If you want children and you want to do something great for them, make sure the woman having them is in her early 20s.

SirWallaceII · 2016-12-31T22:51:08+00:00

The Wall refers to birth.

Male sperm works their wntire life span.

men do not have a wall. they just simply become older versions of themselves.

the_freaking_nerd · 2017-01-01T04:20:55+00:00

The spinsters can stop complaining because a large portion of men crash into the wall at birth - their genetics prevent them from ever being attractive to women due to extreme hypergamy and unfairness.

I hit the wall in my teens because I never grew above 5'11" in a world where every woman is demanding a 6'3" male model as the bare minimum height for consideration. If attractiveness is really the barometer for whether someone has hit the wall (and isn't simply a measure of poor fitness) then most of us have already hit it.

OldRoad · 2017-01-01T06:28:08+00:00

Don't forget about genetics. I've never had a good physique. When I was younger, I was super-skinny. When I got older and could put on weight, it was typically fat. When I would lift weights, I never really gained much muscle. When I lost fat, I just got skinny again.

It becomes kind of pointless once one quits dating. My goal is to get my weight down for health, and that's about it. But that's no guarantee for health either. While I think it's pretty clear that it helps to manage one's weight, eat right, and exercise, there are fairly healthy people that get very bad diseases. There are also overweight people who live longer lives than people probably expect. What to do? In my opinion, one should do the best that one can to be healthy, but also realize that it's not a guarantee. So, one should also do one's best to live the best life one can, a life that one is happy with and proud of, and make the most of every day.

suscitare · 2017-01-01T10:10:22+00:00

I'm 50 and I'm in good shape physically. I do find that my motivation levels are rather low. Being MGTOW probably doesn't help with this. Anyone have any ideas as to how to raise motivation levels for MGTOW men?

Bikemarrow · 2017-01-01T14:24:58+00:00

Men are not judged on their looks, but our output in terms of money and things.

Men can only hit a wall....if they actually hit a wall and are physically disabled or no longer can produce.

newMGTOW · 2017-01-01T03:27:06+00:00

If anyone wants a visual reference to how untrained muscles vs trained muscles lost strength over age had a look at this http://barmethod.com/wp-content/uploads/BLOG_GRAPH_4-10_pdf-resized-600.png

If you train you will last until 60yo before there is much of a noticeable decline in strength and if you keep training you can still be stronger than an untrained 20year old. The decline is very slow, if you don't train however it falls down pretty fast after 30yo

TheTruthHurts16 · 2017-01-01T03:34:12+00:00

If you stick with staying in shape there is no wall at 40 it just gets a little harder and stuff like booze will start to effect you more, as in, it goes straight to your belly and love handles. Also you lose fitness a lot easier...as in if you take off 3 months off and don't do anything it will be a killer. It will take you 9 months to get back the 3 months you lost. You have to stay with it or you're done. If you take 6 months off it will look like you aged 3 or 4 years. If you stick with it, when you're 50 people will tell you look like you're 40 or younger.

karna22 · 2017-01-01T04:53:53+00:00

The wall for men would be a hard limit after which you can't acquire wealth and power. This happens only if you get married.

NaughtyFred · 2017-01-01T05:10:01+00:00

As a 38 year old:

Not only is my baseline strength higher I can gain muscle/strength easier than I did at 18, but I have no "emergency reserve" in the tank. (ie: I can't force out an extra rep like I could back then)
Although I have bags under my eyes from 10 years of drug addiction my skin actually looks better than it did in my early-mid 20's
I simply "feel" a lot better, more comfortable and happy in myself than I did when I was younger.

By contrast my 43 year old formerly thin sister now looks like a fat wrinkly version of Velma from Scooby Do and is super bitter. Meanwhile I'm on track to be a 40 year old with a 6 pack and aside from general life worries I've never been happier.

Men grow into themselves, women grow out of themselves

General_Fear · 2017-01-01T05:38:53+00:00

As long as you have money, you never hit the Wall. My brother did well for himself. He is in his 50's and he was bangin 20 year olds.

Hugh Hefner has money and he scores with young women all the time. https://www.google.com/search?q=Hugh+Hefner+girlfriends&biw=1120&bih=584&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjT443jnaDRAhUM4iYKHazKCrAQ_AUIBigB

Think of the reverse. How many young guys want to go to bed with a 70 year old woman.

PabloEscoba · 2017-01-01T05:53:59+00:00

For women ages 18-30, she rides the Chad carousel like nobody's business. She gets constant male attention and validation, i mean and endless supply here. She friend zones the decent guys because they are boring. When a woman hits 30. Male attention takes a nose dive. Men instinctively know when a woman becomes less fertile . Chads want nothing to do with her. Even manginas start pumping and dumping her. After 35 is over. She becomes desperate for beta bux provisioning and starts to slightly lower standards (the smart ones)seeing that Chads are now really off the table. At 40 she becomes invisible. That my friend is the wall. Its cruel but funny to witness.

mofono · 2017-01-01T07:09:26+00:00

Given that men seek from women youthful golf looks and women seek from men cash and power, women have a very definitely wall at around thirty, but men's cash and power goes up over time assuming he keeps working and stays single (thereby preventing the money from being siphoned off by women). Therefore, if a MGTOW keeps working, even if he doesn't work hard, his sexual market value will accelerate to the moon.

There is no wall for men.

sidel3 · 2017-01-01T08:36:10+00:00

The wall for men is when thier heart stops beating.

TheTruthHurts16 · 2017-01-01T09:10:28+00:00

Men can always bang young chicks. American cunts are the most worthless in the world. There is plenty of young ass that can be had for throughout asia, south america and europe.

victor_knight · 2017-01-01T11:12:03+00:00

Most of you physician-types tend to get married to gold-diggers. I'd be extra careful. Besides, if you decide to pass on your DNA some day, you are probably in a good position for surrogacy.

boringcarpets · 2017-01-01T13:09:55+00:00

The wall? No such thing for men; its all money. Just look at old/ugly millionaires with young hot wives

never_gettin_married · 2016-12-31T21:13:46+00:00

I'm a runner so I like to look at marathon records by age, http://www.arrs.net/SA_Mara.htm

Peak is 30 y/o and slowly drops from there but guys well into their 70's and even older can do really well.

Title	Men hitting "the wall"
Author	BobTheCube
Upvotes	31
Comments	55
Date	December 31, 2016 8:15 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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