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When I was a kid in high school and college, women SOMETIMES got tipsy at parties. Now young women get blackout drunk. A lot. A lot more women are alcoholics.
Back then feminism was in its infancy. Women who hated men were known, but most people thought they were nuts. Nowadays, misandry among young women is the order of the day.
Back in 1977, the only woman who had more than 12 sexual partners by the time she was 30 was usually a hooker, seriously. Women were not nearly as promiscuous as they are now. A woman who slept around got ostracized by other women. Now they defend her.
Back them, you did not see guys expected to have flashy clothes, flashy cars, etc., even if they were rich. Modern young women expect that, expecting a guy to go into debt to lease a car that he does not actually own.
More women now than then are into hard drugs, especially opiates.
More women now than then have a huge amount of debt. Women these days seem a lot less financially responsible than they were in 1977.
You did not see tattooed women back then.
Women back then were not as future oriented as men in general. But the ones who were, who say, thought about where they would be when they hit 40, were much more common than today.
One improvement: Fewer women these days are smokers.
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I think the promiscuity and lack of manners reached a tipping point right around the year 2000. I am not a sociologist, so the factors of why this took place at that particular time are not for sure known to me.
In the 1980's, good manners was still around in most women. It was right at the end of the 1990's that I saw the tattoos, the love of the bad boys, the sluttiness start to get in-your-face. By 2003 it was going full tilt.
One of my memories of 2003 came from a theater I worked at. I recall this girl there, no older than 11, wearing heavy makeup and dressed like a slut. At first, she seemed to be a midget of some sort, and then I realized this was a sluttified girl whose parents were oblivious to it. And the manager of the theater, a foreign man about 35, thought that she was just the hottest thing he ever saw, and did not realize why I found her, and the manager, repulsive.
Part of this, I think, is the erosion of boundaries in our society, and the attitude of a lot of people that manners and decency are oppressive strictures. I think it has also some relation to the identity politics and safe spaces you see today.
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World dude, I am not a conservative. Middle of the road is where my politics lie. Conservatives do not like MGTOW. They would have us all as slaves, to finance endless waves of babies.
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Don't kid yourself on that one.
Same with a lot of the "non-smoker" guys too.
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It will eventually get back to something better between men and women. But this will take several decades, and the legal system will grossly disfavor men for at least the next forty years.
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I'm in my 20s, but it seems like women nowadays are extremely quick to jump to claim "harassment" for everything.
I'm not talking real harassment like stalking, or groping, but things like manspreading or asking a coworker out on a date.
Or situations like this: a college student touches his girlfriend on her breast to try and initiate sex. She says stop, and he immediately does. Over a year later, he's charged with sexual assault
Instead of just saying "no" and moving on with their lives, it's now a trip to HR or the Title IX officer to file a complaint to completely ruin the man for inconveniencing her or making her feel mildly uncomfortable for a moment.
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There were very overweight women then, but it is true that their numbers today are somewhat higher.
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I am more a sympathizer with the MGTOW philosophy than an actual practicioner. I have mixed feelings about my past at this point. But had I known about it in, say, 1971, my life would have been very different. MGTOW would have saved me from a lot of harm, strife, and desperation.
I still recall songs from that year, like "Maggie May" by Rod Stewart. The gynocentrism was so pervasive, people thought it was the only way to live. You young guys have more of a choice.
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