Opinion on keto?

Ronin281 · 2019-03-13T07:52:21+00:00

I’ve done keto off and on for 7 years now and have done extensive research on it. It’s definitely effective and 20 lbs is easily obtainable in 4 months(aim for max 2 lbs loss a week to allow your skin to adjust with your fat loss). My water weight fluctuates 10 lbs +/- within a week of ketosis from its diuretic effect. My cardio soars in it but my strength declines. Supplement potassium and sodium because you will cramp up in deep ketosis. For short term goals it works great but for me personally for extended periods I prefer a balanced diet with a focus on cals in/cals out.

The_Stumper · 2019-03-13T07:34:33+00:00

Here’s the tl;dr. Keto works.

You can’t cheat CACO (calories in, calories out).

But what keto does is allow your body to feel fuller for longer while eating less calories in a fat burning state called ketosis.

How low calories can you go?

Up to zero

Docbear64 · 2019-03-13T07:36:01+00:00

I lost like 90+ lbs of weight on Keto several years ago . it was great. it helped me learn a lot of good eating habits as well . The biggest side effect is you will piss a lot and you have to take Multivitamins and shit or you will feel awful , also the adjustment time can be a bitch .

lastly cheating while in Ketosis can be a pretty big mind fuck , because your water weight fluctuates like crazy . I've literally seen the number on the scale rise or lower by 10 lbs in a single day when I exit or enter Ketosis .

I know people who have a certain exercise regiment tend to find themselves winded quicker while in ketosis as well so you may have to work on conditioning yourself physically while in ketosis as well if you have a specific workout regimen .

I am struggling to re-enter Ketosis to lose a few pounds now which is more of a discipline issue but honestly for someone like me who was severely overweight for much of my life Keto was the answer to my prayers and the perfect routine for me .

r/keto/ is an amazing community too and is a great place to bitch about the diet, find alternatives and recipes for your favorite snacks, and see what low carb options there are out there.

Good luck !

Xexitar · 2019-03-13T08:01:58+00:00

Calories in, calories out. That's all that matters. Download myfitnesspal (free app) and track everything. Eat only 1800 calories and exercise and in 2 months you'll lose 20lbs. I did.

nigelh · 2019-03-13T09:53:35+00:00

I did 30lbs in five months.
I like keto. Crash out the carbs and eat bacon for protein if you really must have a snack. Then, when the carb craving we call 'hunger' dies away, cut back on the overall diet and the weight falls off reasonably painlessly.
I had no adverse side effects other than the expense in new clothes to fit.

ilikerelish · 2019-03-13T10:21:20+00:00

Keto is extremely effective if you go all in, and follow it religiously. It only took my brother about 6 months to go from 350 to 280. There were side effects, but he is still sticking to it. I won't call it healthy, but it is damned effective in the short term. I have to lose weight, but won't consider keto personally. I lost roughly the same amount 3 years ago eating normally, though it took alittle more time.

RedPillLawyerGuy · 2019-03-13T13:52:24+00:00

I am on Keto right now with 16-8 intermittent fasting. In the last six weeks, I've lost 14 pounds. I found after about a week, you have to consciously eat more vegetables to make sure you're getting enough minerals and stuff.

I eat at 12:30 and 7:30. At 12:30, I'll go protein-heavy, like a 7 oz porkchop, with a side salad and roasted vegetables (zucchini, asparagus, green peppers). For dinner, I'll throw in fiber (low-carb soft taco tortilla) with a little more protein (like a chicken wrap or something) with a buttload of veggies -- broccoli, carrots, cauliflower mashed up like mashed potatoes. Then a handful of peanuts or almonds to make sure I'm between 1400-1600 calories per day. My BMR is around 2,300 calories a day, so I'm basically losing 1.5 pounds a week.

CICO is the ultimate name of the game, but six weeks in, I'm not starving myself and I haven't noticed any drop off in energy level, mostly because I don't wake up with achy joints and I sleep 8 hours a night straight through.

Raggs2010 · 2019-03-13T14:19:41+00:00

I have been on and off low carb for the past 8 years or so. Lost weight and became more active. However at 56 I was still dealing with borderline high blood pressure. 10 months ago I went full Keto. I lost more weight but plateaued. So I started IF with it 16/8. Didn't help much. So I did IF 48 hours per week(5/2 days). That helped. I have dropped two pant sizes. It is my HBP where Keto helped. I focused on foods with high potassium that is recommend for Keto. BP is mostly normal and I am taking no meds. I have reached my goal weight. Lost 40 pounds since May, probably more but I have been gaining muscle at the same time. I have a six pack again and the energy and mental focus is so much better now. I now find it easy to do and now like this lifestylbe and will not go back to what I was. I have not had any side effects.

Well there is one side effect. More attention from women at the gym. There are times when they approach and talk to me. Oftentimes touching me while they are talking. At my age and stage in life, this makes me uncomfortable and I do not like the touching. In my work and normal life I started wearing smaller sized clothing. Again women are complimenting me on being slimmer and having a flat stomach. I started wearing oversized clothing again to avoid this attention.

S1ck0m0d3 · 2019-03-13T08:43:10+00:00

Watch out for gout, there's tons of info on how to prevent that during a keto diet. Some are prone to it, some not, but just sharing info to make you aware and look into.

When I'm on a keto diet I also do Intermittent Fasting which you can adjust according to your lifestyle and everyday routine.

indiscretus · 2019-03-13T08:45:23+00:00

As you probably know already some people are strong advocates of keto and swears by it and there are documented benefits for some groups of people, like epileptics.

For me keto was not a good tool to use.

By that I mean I've tried it and didn't find it to be ideal for me. Never felt I got the energy I was used to from eating.

Now will keto alone help you loose weight? No, only way you're going to lose that weight is by cutting your calories.

Which is the golden role for either gaining or loosing weight; calories in/calories out.

This means in principle you could by just restricting your calories loose weight.

Would I recommend just restricting your calories? Again no. Normal relatively healthy people should also do some kind of working out.

You, wether you decide to go keto or not must find out what your maintenance calories are. This means the amount of calories needed to maintain your current body weight. Then you restrict from 200 to 500 calories per day.

Use a calorie calculator to find out your maintenance needs.

Normally I would advice not to cut more than 200 calories per day. This will help you greatly because you won't be as hungry, which is important for keeping to your goal.

Now, still you need to count the actual calories you put into your body. Use a two week period to make note of every piece of food and drink you eat. Also make note of the carb, fat and protein content. This is also very important. You'll probably discover that excess calories is just one side of your weight issue.

To much fat and carbs are very common.

I am not going to go into every detail for you here. You should put the effort in yourself. This is important so that you can become more knowledgeable and hopefully can eat and live as healthy as possible beyond the 20 pounds you want to loose right now.

Eating (relatively) healthy and being active will help you in every faset of life.

So finally; You can loose weight just by cutting calories but you should do some kind if working out as well. Start slow if you're not working out and/or if you haven't worked out in a long time. (Talking to your doctor is also adviceable)

Use this to change the way you eat and live for the long haul. Not just short term. Try keto if you want but keto alone won't help you reach your goal and going to that extreme is most likely unnecessary.

Calories in/calories out. That's the answer.

wasa333 · 2019-03-13T07:46:14+00:00

Why do you need to lose that much by then?

grumpy_old_mann · 2019-03-13T08:50:04+00:00

I did keto for just under 2 years. I didn't do it for weight loss, so I can't comment there.

But I can offer this advice: calcium, potassium, magnesium, sodium. Get some supplements and keep them on-hand until you're familiar with how you respond to keto. When you get low in these minerals, it fucks you up.

I personally experienced:

tiredness, lethargy
sore muscles, muscle cramps
racing hear (woke up in the middle of the night with about double normal heartrate. Freaked me the fuck out. Glass of water with salt cured it, but I recommend not letting it go that far.)
headache

Be on the lookout for these symptoms. Keep your electrolytes up. Keep some pills handy.

anonfrom8chan · 2019-03-13T10:06:23+00:00

Keto works. Good things: massive weight loss (mostly fat, muscle retains), clear mind, seemingly endless level of mental and physical energy, good quality sleep, prevents cancer.

The bad: food gets repetitive very fast, could potentially have detrimental effects on health, all social eating is pretty much impossible, no beer allowed.

Emanresu_rouy_esoohc · 2019-03-13T10:47:17+00:00

Diets never work, because they are just temporary. You have to change your eating habits permanently. If you go for KETO, then do it until your death.

ratchet_hd · 2019-03-13T12:16:02+00:00

Lower sugar intake (fruits are natural sugars too) & switch from white to wheat breads, increase protein with a natural peanut butter, bananas for needed potassium, grapefruit & pineapple will help with fat burning.

Skip the fried food and get baked or grilled. 80/20 ground chuck or lean. Saltwater fish is coming into season so look for mahi as a treat.

10 pushups & situps before your breakfast will help metabolize and boost energy (drink 12oz of water as soon as you wake up).

1-800-CALL-MGTOW · 2019-03-13T12:31:56+00:00

Keto is fucking awesome. If you do it strictly/properly you can lose .4/.5lbs a day. It's also good for fasting and less hunger, mental clarity, steady energy, and less risk of disease

Vaginal_Tissue_Balls · 2019-03-13T13:21:38+00:00

Cabbage soup diet will make you lose 10lbs in a week

Fleeb4MrZurkon · 2019-03-13T15:20:06+00:00

high intensity interval training has shed 3lbs of me in a week, idk what will happen for you but it worked for me. I ketoed but not properly or purposefully. i just didnt have food or money. long story short, run, just run and run again full speed. take a break , then back to running. it sucks but its literally your best option

Stahlboden · 2019-03-13T15:27:00+00:00

I did sorta kinda keto. Eggs and 5% cottage cheese with much hot tea and coffee to feel full for longer. As little as 700 kcal a day. Lost about 40kg in 6 months. Now after a year i regained maybe 10kg, but now my priorities are saving as much money as possible and not going mad from stress, so i eat a lot of junk food.

Mecha_Hobbit · 2019-03-13T16:30:32+00:00

I like Keto. Check out:. https://www.dietdoctor.com/

One of my favorite things is this:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sam-s-Choice-Organic-Bone-Broth-Beef-32-oz/54300738?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&wl13=1062&adid=22222222228055312419&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=156488565754&wl4=pla-267984821895&wl5=9027821&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=local&wl12=54300738&wl13=1062&veh=sem&gclid=CjwKCAjw1KLkBRBZEiwARzyE77MbjqkK5MQGVyv6aAW6VVulmym3XzoDqNe2JR88s2Y5buQOVA5KzxoCqAcQAvD_BwE

DeepFalchion · 2019-03-13T07:54:19+00:00

Be REALLY careful when researching as there is too much bullshit out there. I even gave up on it because it just wasn't worth my time digging through the lies. Be really skeptical. I saw one dude saying that "we are not as fat as we look. What many people have is chronic inflammation on the abdomen, which is ascitis" and the comments on the video were all praising it. It IS effective if done properly but you MUST understand gastrointestinal physiology and regulate your electrolytes.

Do NOT exclusively drink water or else you WILL damage yourself. Excess ketonic bodies that come from using body fat for energy (English is not my first language, so I don't know if that's what those are called) will fuck you up in ways I don't even remember, so don't exceed yourself when doing it and don't do it for too long. When coming out of the diet start with a low amount of food and mostly liquid, since your intestines will be inactive after so much time without food and you don't want them clogging up.

Wanna know how serious it is when people do it wrong? Let's say you start this shit and don't eat sodium. Your blood will have little sodium right? So that means the water in your blood will go somewhere else with a higher concentration in ions and such. That's your cells. You will get symptoms similar to people with hyponatremic diarrhoea. Your mouth won't be dry, your skin will be fine and your eyes won't sink into your face, which is what happens when you dehydrate your cells. What WILL happen is shit like your BRAIN SWELLING. Also, your body will still detect the low amount of blood volume. What do you think it will do? It will increase production of ADH (vasopressin). You will piss less and less and keep even more water in, worsening the condition.

There is much more shit that can happen but you get my point. Research flawlessly or you can get fucked for it. Or just do normal dieting like I'm doing.

EEE_Ed · 2019-03-13T14:51:37+00:00

I've been eating a low-carb high-fat diet for a couple of months now. I wasn't that overweight, but the weight I did have melted away. Plus I use to always feel like crap after eating, but since I cut out carbs, I feel great after I eat.

Title	Opinion on keto?
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Date	March 13, 2019 7:21 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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