Today I was finishing off my shift and people started talking about marriage and what not. I decided I'll just keep to myself. Anyway one of my coworkers was like well he doesn't even want to date anyone or get married. So obviously everything turns towards me.
Only female there says.. .why don't you want to get married or date anyone?
I said well it's pointless to marry someone now a days. 1 out 2 people that get married end up divorce. If 1 out of 2 planes fell from the sky you probably wouldn't ever go on vacation or even leave your house would you ?
I said I look at most of the stats and the way things end up for men and I don't think it's worth it at all. Now she was like well then you sound bitter.
Now more.... shaming comes. Well you're just negative... you'll be alone forever. I think you are really negative. Then she says don't you want someone to come on to or someone to love everyone wants that.
I was like if I can be happy on my own why would I need anyone besides my friends or family . Anyway shaming language went on for a while and it turned into them just getting angry. She said well I was married when I was 21 and I said well how did that go ?
She said obviously not well because i'm single I said that's my point. We have temporary happiness and love then and it's a nice thought but don't kid yourself into thinking you will get married and stay in love forever because it rarely happens. Most people tend to jump for people to people. I would rather just spend my life not doing that.
She was like you will be single forever. I said and that's fine by me it's better then getting married losing half my stuff, getting destroy emotionally and mentally in the divorce. Not being able to raise my children in the way I choose. Possible having another guy who she chooses influence my children. So honestly there actually doesn't seem much of a point. Now If I could be married with someone that wouldn't do that to me it's a nice thought but at close to 50% it's not worth the coin flip. I would rather do things that make me happy in life.
She was like ya I guess you and your hand can have fun for a while. I was like I didn't say I don't have sex I said I don't date and don't want to get married. Sex is perfectly fine by me so long as there is no commitment and currently the woman I am with have no intent of committing and we have a very clear understanding of what we want. What we want is sex so we have it. She wasn't happy about that but I ended up leaving.
Tl;Dr
At work people started shamming me because I don't want to date or get married I tried to defend my point of view it did not work to well. Tl;Dr
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33 y/o male here. My preferred response is to simply state i have had bad luck with my 2 previous relationships, (1 was a cheater, the other mentally ill and abusive) i currently enjoy being single and i have not yet encountered any women that i feel like i could have a serious long term relationship with.
None of these points are lies, but none of them counter a MGTOW lifestyle either. I have not encountered any hostility or ridicule when i express it the way i described above. I'm a man going my own way, i do not feel the need to further explain myself or my choices to anyone. If you put your choices/opinions out there, you will of course take fire from those who disagree with your choices and opinions. That's part of free speech, it goes both ways.
Those who feel the need to inform or convince those around them of the rightness of their lifestyle are no better than those women who post on Facebook how "They are a bitch, and people will just have to get used to it!".
To the OP, i hope your co-workers stop shaming you. But i would advice you to take care to avoid sounding like you are on a crusade against women or marriage. "I don't give a fuck" is more fitting for MGTOW than "It is unfair".
Take care, dude!
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