What is even this sub?

2020-07-06T06:13:37+00:00

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gtowerthrowaway · 2020-07-06T06:29:54+00:00

"You boys"

Who the fuck are you to come here and talk condescendingly to this group?

I personally am married, probably older, with more kids than you, a successful career, published works and many other accomplishments. And if I were to do it all over again, I would go MGTOW.

"Just put in a little more effort."

I'd bet my left testicle that I've put much more effort into my life than you. I came from less than nothing, and through that good old-fashioned bootstrap-pulling, I built myself into an accomplished man. Yet I never found the need to go somewhere where my opinion isn't valued or wanted and preach some gospel.

That's usually the venue of people who aren't all that confident in their own path.

So, sir, I kindly invite you fuck off. Judging from your post, you don't know the first thing about MGTOW. Men need to do this and men need to do that. Maybe someone else can have a turn doing all the things.

the_sexymofo · 2020-07-06T06:08:53+00:00

Just curious. What do women do then? What about divorce rape and alimony. Moreover, what do men get back from doing this? Aren't women equal? Can't they do all this instead.

thatMGTOWguy · 2020-07-06T06:26:15+00:00

We believe women are superior to us and can do all of these things on their own so we say goodbye

BrizzLatency · 2020-07-06T08:10:05+00:00

lmao high quality bait

Vaxel00 · 2020-07-06T06:13:36+00:00

Holy shit.

So just for being a man I'm supposed to be a slave?

And worse, I'm supposed to be happy about it?

Women can fend for themselves and if they can't it's their fault, not my problem.

hnug2 · 2020-07-06T07:08:42+00:00

Yea nah, I am married and If I were to do it again I will not do it. I rather have lower position and stress level in my job and come home early. However, I cant't because I have extra mouth to feed.

I need to get promoted twice to get my previous lifestyle back. It's infuriating because my stress level went up but my lifestyle is the same as pre-marriage period plus the nagging.

Preach somewhere else you cunt.

ursus_thibetanus · 2020-07-06T06:06:10+00:00

Gn0meRat · 2020-07-06T06:12:22+00:00

Humanity is nothing more than mold on bread inside of a jar. It fucks, it breeds, it consumes all the resources and then has a societal downing, which is what we are having right now.

To think we are anything more is naivety. And that is why we will never have a utopian society because we can never get people to stop fucking.

The_Whorror_Show · 2020-07-06T09:28:41+00:00

Lol who are you? Simp laden? Foh.

Men in power gave abandoned us for the pussy they crave so much. I have no obligation to society other than to go my own way, fuck you're entertainment saying economy, it's a rigged game that profits the top men and women, everyone else loses.

Go the fuck your own way into that trap and keep crying that mgtow doesn't fill your wallet through stupidity mate.

secant128 · 2020-07-06T07:03:25+00:00

All men are required to sign up for the draft, if not we don't have the right to vote. Therefore, no matter what, we have to fight if a war comes, we don't have a choice it's not like mgtows are exceptions to the draft. Meanwhile it's a choice for women, they don't need to sign up for the draft but can vote.
FYI majority of divorces are women. Around 80%, 90% if they are college educated. They don't want you men to be around they are strong and independent.
No one said hypergamy is bad, it's just nature, we tell men the truth straight up.
No they won't. Theatres are closing but streaming platforms like netflix, amazon prime, disney plus, are growing. It's just changing technology and consumer behaviors. It's not because of mgtow, mgtow is an extreme minority among men majority of men still get married and date. I respect their decisions I don't care.
No one needs to get married, men or women, or whatever gender. It's their personal decision. A lot of women don't want to get married as well they'd rather marry themselves, why don't you go tell them that? Copy and paste this same post onto wgtow, witches vs patriarchy, pinkpillfeminism, twoxchromosome and change it to "you women need to get married". You'll get banned pretty quickly. At least here we're open to conversations, the mods will probably remove this thread in a few hours because this topic has been brought up countless times it's a waste of time and space but in a female centric sub, you'll get banned almost immediately.

2020-07-06T07:25:31+00:00

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Silly_Standard_9658 · 2020-07-06T08:37:59+00:00

What a troll look up there other post lmao

Ody_ssey · 2020-07-06T06:47:04+00:00

So you addressed everything what men should do. What women bring to the table? Divorce, alimony, child support, false accusations, adultery, brainwashing kids against you, make you struggle to see your kids, college debt on you, no good career. Is that what you are fighting for your country?

You have unrealistic expectations about marriage with modern women. The healthy habits you are suggesting to men can also be done without marriage. Marriage instead does the opposite. Your depression rises up, mental health goes down, you have to raise your wife like another child.

Men should go to gym and work for good career regardless of marriage and relationship. You are putting women at higher standards than you and you are associating relationship as a motivation factor to build yourself up so you can stand up to her standards. But you are ignoring the fact she has nothing to offer in return. So her standards are below you.

Only family court is the best teacher for you and the best father for your wife.

Hateussoyboys · 2020-07-06T06:57:00+00:00

Since when feminazi are allowed posting here?

bamabeatsny · 2020-07-06T14:05:09+00:00

You have not responded to any of the comments here. You're not here to learn anything. If you were, you'd have spent the necessary time reading the thousands of posts from men whose lives have been utterly destroyed by women. AND you would take the time to read the side bar information. It takes about 3 months. To do it right.

But you didn't.

You are a troll. And an idiot.

GoodMan_Gone · 2020-07-06T07:02:45+00:00

Just keep taking some more red pills, OP and come back later.
I don't owe women shit. Let them fight and die for their "country" themselves for all I care. And I don't need to go out and date. Because IDGAF about those "industries" as well. Let them die too. And I also don't want to put children into this clown world

As for hypergamy: that's a woman's natural instinct. All the bashing about it aside: it's just an instinct. Nothing good or bad about that.

Lucius_Faust · 2020-07-06T08:35:35+00:00

Ekhm....the 3rd Reich was called Vaterland (Fatherland xD). In some languages it's still fatherland, for example in polish - Ojczyzna as land given from father (roughly translated). Still some right wing parties uses in our country old shout "God, Honor, Fatherland". But I digress.

I like if someone will give an opposite opinion, because it gives a field for discussion. I don't know if that's a troll post...but I'll go with my guts and concur your line of thinking.

About military it's partially true, but there are less and less countries depending on draft in favor on smaller professional units. If you add increasing utility of drones there are less and less men needed in the army. On the other hand women have also right and duty to defend their country, so shouldn't they also fill the gap ?
True, we all know that the best environment to raise a child is full home with father and mother. Nevertheless given the statistics women (vast majority of them) are not happy with that contract so they file for divorce. Family law is also on disadvantage for men here, we usually don't have chance to see children aside from formal visitations, we need to pay child support, which usually can't be checked if it's truly spent on child. I'll just leave that in family man is expected to make his wife happy, and woman can't be expected to make her husband happy. It's just now one way benefit ticket for a woman, but not man.
Ok, hypergamy is women nature and we can't blame it. We can only be angry that media were selling us story about this one woman waiting for us with unconditional love (which is very elaborate lie). But we shift here idea that we improve ourselves only for ourselves, not to make some woman happy and interested in us according to hypergamy. Women are just not center of our interest here as a benefactor of our improvement but we are.
There is no need for a date right now or use. You heard about "Foodie calls" ? Yep dates had meanings maybe in the past, but nowadays they're just a mean to get a free meal for a woman. Add to it that woman has very high expectations, but she won't do anything to make this date comfortable, plus she'll usually write text messages to other people, usually guys also wanting to take her on date. So if in the past dates had meaning, now they are just not worth men time and effort. Oh...I've forgot one thing. Most woman call themselves: modern, strong and independent, but they can't get over to pay their part of bill during date, which is hilarious.
Marriage as institution is dead. It's a death trap for a men, with no benefits. There are more and more stories about dead marital bedrooms, wife's cheating on their husbands, wife's being abusive and using law to kick husband out of the house if it fits her. Even sex with wife, if any in marriage, is dangerous because of forced concept of "marital rape". If it ends with divorce, family law is usually against men. As for the industry...well that's the Market, they'll just need to adapt to lesser demand and rebrand.

So your entry is based on finding good woman, who will "regulate" us. Sorry, but even so good women are myths right now. Mostly we have many young women focused on their "fun", sleeping with so much guys that they can't bond and make long term relationship, after they "have their fun" and there's no "fun" left for potential husband. Even if there are such woman, which is possible, there's too much hassle to look for them in vast majority of "fun girls". Even so there are too much benefit for woman not to be in relationship and being strong, independent single mother. As for the system, the system is centered on women benefit not men, so why should we contribute to the system that doesn't benefit us. Income tax should be just enough with expenses for our hobbies or degrees that will help our career, so we contribute to the system, without being extorted via family courts or via wife.

EL10RUB · 2020-07-06T09:57:08+00:00

Stopped reading midway through 1st paragraph

Shimakaze4 · 2020-07-06T10:10:42+00:00

Who the fuck are you to dictate what we men should do? Let's go through your points shall we;

1 - What does fighting wars have to do with protecting women? I'm not their protector, hell it's 2020, women are equal to men so we keep getting told, so go protect yourself. I'm not going to be cannon fodder in a war waged by politicians for a country that treats me like shit for being a man.

2 - Sure, men are needed to help raise families, if you want a family. Most MGTOW don't and those that do have kids take active participation in their lives.

3 - I know we are right about it. You don't need women to be the best, many men want to be the best and do the best. Women are irrelevant in such a situation.

4 - I don't need to date to go to the movies or get some food.

5 - Not my problem. So housing becomes a little cheaper, good.

You are basically saying we men should be slaves, work for women, pay for women, pay for society and give your lives for them. No, fuck that, I don't want to. Now go play somewhere else.

shellbross · 2020-07-06T11:32:05+00:00

OK tradcuck.

Catcrumble · 2020-07-06T12:02:18+00:00

2020-07-06T12:35:34+00:00

I suppose your first premise is easily refuted and rejected.

So the rest of your argument cannot stand.

Title	What is even this sub?
Author	Givemethatnow
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Comments	27
Date	July 6, 2020 5:59 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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