What was your red pill?

fantasmas05 · 2017-11-03T15:19:31+00:00

My life has been a constant series of disappointments at the hands of women. All the shitty things you read/hear about relationships have happened to me. I've been cheated on, lied to, stolen from, assaulted, left for Chad, left for a richer guy, shit tested, controlled and manipulated. I stupidly believed blue pillers and chicks around me who would say the cliched rubbish like "you just havent met the right one yet".

Then in a moment of weakness I began a relationship with an older single mother who put on the perfect facade to begin with. She cooked, she cleaned, she dressed up for me, she sucked and fucked whenever I wanted, she was pleasant and seemed like a good catch.... but my instincts were screaming at me that something didn't add up.

As things progressed she came clean. She was lying about her situation. She was unemployed and had been for 2 years by choice, had a lot of debt and she also had quite serious depression which she was doing nothing about. I'd already met the kid by this stage and blue pill me at the time felt guilty about leaving. Queue 1.5 years of a complete shitstorm which almost broke my sanity. Never ending shit tests, demands, accusations, being hit, threatened by the baby daddy, her flirting with other guys, depleted of my money and isolated from friends and family. Every time I tried to leave she'd threaten to kill herself and I'd stay. It was the worst time of my life.

One afternoon I was in the bathroom and her handbag was in there. I noticed her contraception. I looked at it and realized it wasn't opened. I then saw the date the drug store prints on the front.... it was from 6 weeks ago! Holy fuck!! I turned pale. I confronted her about it and she said "Yes I've been trying to get pregnant. I wanted to surprise you. I thought it was best for you, for me and for my daughter". I was furious.

I imagined life with her forever with a kid involved and i felt physically ill. I saw the hellish torment each day would be like. I thought about her leaving me in the future, taking my house and paying child support for a kid I never wanted. I thought about how shit my life was with this bitch. I realized I could never trust her. Ever.

We broke up not long after that. She was fucking a new guy within a week.

People say I'm too harsh on women now. But I've experienced one of the worst and have nothing else but a long list of disappointments from other women. Why should I believe otherwise?

I still pump n dump/One night stands and have some friends with benefits. But I take my red flags seriously these days. I never say never, but it's highly unlikely that I'll ever find someone worthy of my commitment, loyalty and time.

Go your own way.

Unexpecter · 2017-11-03T14:23:23+00:00

I don't remember how I stumbled on TRP but from reading it I realized that I was fucking archetype of beta orbiter whole my 30 yo life and therefore why I never had major success with women, despite being attractive (as I was told). I opened my fucking eyes and ditched the fucking attention seeking whore I was orbiting over a year at the time, who acted like innocent princess and meanwhile rode cc. Since I developed the ADGAF attitude, the behaviour of women around me changed drasticaly. It's actually laughable how easy is to get woman when you treat her as a whore and not as a little precious special snowflake princess.

TheMEmonologues · 2017-11-03T15:43:05+00:00

Raising daughters and seeing how much different (easier) their life was growing than mine was. It's insane how much easier their path is. Need a job? Easy. Need a boyfriend? Easy. Car breaks down from neglegence and parents won't help? Cry to an uncle or grandpa. Trouble with the law? Cops save you instead of harassing you.

The only real patriarchy is women not having much expected of them, which causes them to be satisfied anf successful even with a lower level of competency. They're a special protected class who 'liberated' themselves but kept all the advantages of being a special protected class. And much like my ex wife, they have it all and still want more.

It's really shocking to see someone play life on easy mode but still bitch about being oppressed.

throwaway152038 · 2017-11-03T13:50:49+00:00

I was 14, I really liked a girl. What was she saying she wants was actually opposite. Of course I did what she wanted. She went then with a guy which she hated that did shit that was opposite what she said she wanted. I was so angry and pissed, but I started to observe women.

Destroy_Rebuild_ · 2017-11-03T14:15:36+00:00

I was popular in high school and had no real shortage of potential mates / friends. My first real gf was this cutie 3.14 that I picked from a handful. We dated awhile, traded V cards, etc. Thought this was 'love'.

Fast-forward two months, now a four month relationship. I get hospitalized for a week. She visits every night. Feels good, NAWALT.

Post-surgery I am unable to lift over 10 lbs for 6 months and I can't return to school for another 6 weeks. She visits and tells me about her day. "I had such a great day, I hung out with Chad. . . he is soooo funny!!" . . . okay, she can have friends. This goes on until it's a couple of days a week that they 'hang out'. Starts complaining that we haven't been doing much (I'm on doctor ordered bed-rest) and that I am not myself (depression kicked in, I'm failing school, losing my fitness gains, and unable to pursue my interest at the time). Start losing my shit. "Oh you're just jealous, insecure, etc". Get a call from one of my 'friends' stating he witnessed her cheat.

Long story short, this dramatically changed my perspective on relationships. Though I had a lot of relationships following this, I always proceed with caution and keep an emotional distance. I find usually around the 4-6 month mark the true colors start to show themselves, if not sooner.

This was my first red pill.

SRod1706 · 2017-11-03T15:33:13+00:00

When I got monkey branched and divorce raped. I am a slow learner. Half realized it years ago, but kept fighting it. Bad apples. Trying to understand a women's side of the story (lies). I think back on how many times a woman told her side of something and I thought, "well that is illogical" or "well that part is bs" yet still believed the story as a whole.

So I was not red pilled when I knew the truth. I was red pilled when I gave up fighting the truth.

2017-11-03T14:46:44+00:00

TRP doc. But I could feel a disturbance in the force after the end of my first LTR. I was already looking for the matrix. It took another LTR, now this one really showed me everything.

I watched the doc some months after the breakup, while still being manipulated by her, as a beta orbiter. My great redpill came 3 days after watching Sandman's essential initial videos. Out of some serendipidy she came to know I was MGTOW and proceeded to call me a misogynist and all of that.

From her mouth: ''You had no trouble sleeping with a drunk girl.''

That referred to the first time we slept together, she almost accused me of rape.

She dressed sexy, hit on me all night and got herself drunk. And I didn't make a single move on her. After the end of my first LTR, I was basically a feral MGTOW, but I lacked the knowledge. Then, on the ride back, I accidently got too close and things happened. I brought her breakfast in bed after out first time. I don't know a whole lot of rapists who do that.

I am a free man now. Jesus Christ does it feel good to disentangle yourself from the matrix. No more pussy worship, now I can see right thru the farce of women.

SirTopKekington · 2017-11-03T13:58:34+00:00

The girls I liked always deflected any hang-out invites or anything and pulled the "buttttt my friend blahblah would totally be interested and you should try her!"

Then these girls I was interested in were always getting rides home from other dudes so I realized they were actively making these choices and it snowballed from there

THE_STREETS_OF_RAGE · 2017-11-03T22:00:42+00:00

Dating women. There's no mystery; you date women, talk to them, and keep your wits about you. Then you realise behind the pretty exterior is the hard logic of unadulterated Darwinism. The sexual market, hypergamy, promiscuity, branch swinging, it's all a consequence of Darwinism.

Darwin wrote the rules and they apply to everything human, but men are too stupid and deluded with women to read the fucking rule book. If you are not Red Pilled by the time you're 30, it's your own stupid fault.

drogosan · 2017-11-03T17:20:02+00:00

Running PUA during my late 20s. After three girlfriends, I realised that my happiness hadn't improved, and I had wasted a shit ton of money and time. It was a sad moment, walking to the end of the rainbow and discovering that it was an illusion.

Diam35 · 2017-11-03T17:52:45+00:00

At 31 y/o I showed my bank account balance to a broad I was dating (genius, I know) and her attitude immediately changed to more cold and irritable. Against a backdrop of countless disappointing and infuriating experiences with women's general stupidity and dishonesty, this stands out as #1 eye opener for me. I think I should have found MGTOW back then, and I did come across some of the videos, but denial is a powerful thing.

joewhyit · 2017-11-03T16:15:29+00:00

Years of watching women do dirty shit to men for various ridiculous reasons (and getting away with it, or even praised for it) and finally thinking “Y’know what? Fuck everything about this.”

Yeah, I know, it’s vague. But whatever; it’s accurate enough.

rovad_ · 2017-11-03T18:35:46+00:00

Being ugly lol

801735 · 2017-11-03T13:56:56+00:00

Life. Still bitter...sweet... on occasions. It's complicated.

claydn · 2017-11-03T15:50:27+00:00

It would be my exgf. I also broke up with her because of TRP.:)

MarketGiraffe · 2017-11-03T16:39:58+00:00

when women hit men and its allowed but if men hit back to defend themselves they go to jail. Also all the false rape accusations in the media the last 2-3 years (ex: mattress girl)

fuu999 · 2017-11-03T19:48:32+00:00

I am half asian in a non asian country, no further comments

hottake_toothache · 2017-11-03T21:09:12+00:00

Reading about guys getting fucked over in college kangaroo courts.

Sepsom6 · 2017-11-03T23:02:49+00:00

My 3 sisters

aanarchist · 2017-11-04T08:59:35+00:00

when a bitch passes you for an unstable drug addicted thug but then whines about how she wants a good guy. first experience was all i needed, being logical and curious has a way of making you look at facts.

Title	What was your red pill?
Author	curiouslyengaged
Upvotes	34
Comments	58
Date	November 3, 2017 1:33 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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