Constantly running into the same situation with girls

Tookarn · 2020-03-21T21:59:13+00:00

You're allowed to have sex and still follow the MGTOW philosophy. By being honest and upfront with these ladies you're practicing good qualities; honesty and Integrity. I hope you continue to grow as a person

Impossible-asset · 2020-03-21T21:55:23+00:00

Well, sounds like that's a pretty fair scenario. Good for you.

But can we please not do the "kings" thing? You're not a king. I'm not a king. Nobody else here is a king. That saying is a cringy parroting of the FDS "everyone is a queen" nonsense.

I dont date because I dont find them interesting. I wouldnt get married because it's an insane thing to do. When I get sex I rent a woman and get it from a pro as a service. But if you're into the dating app thing and enjoying it, hey good for you. Just wrap that rascal and always save your text messages.

Ralik2D · 2020-03-22T02:15:58+00:00

MGTOW don't have rules, the philosophy is you're the most impotent person in your life, that said if you get kids, please make sure you treat them with their best interest in mind, to make fully capable adults one day.

as_elias · 2020-03-22T08:29:20+00:00

This is the standard playbook of the modern female. Your job is to get from hi to sex, hers is to get you to commit. She does not know how to start a relationship other than let you fuck her, so that's what she does. After a few weeks, she'll get a bit antsy and will want to know what she is in your eyes, or some such b.s. She will want you to be her boyfriend. If you don't, she may leave, looking for someone who is more serious (hint: she may have been fucking/dating other guys behind your back all along), and if she does not find anyone, she'll happy to return to you, but this time, she'll want you to commit sooner.

There is a similar pattern in relationships. She breaks up with you because she found a chaddier guy, but then the dude just wants to fuck her. This is where she "realizes what a big mistake she has made". Consequently, she'll beg you to take her back. This is where you lol and ignore her calls or messages.

Source: banged a ton of chicks.

Darth_Zounds · 2020-03-21T23:06:38+00:00

Which apps do you use, what do you put in your profile, and what do you say when you message them?

Asking for research purposes.

Equivalent-Craft · 2020-03-21T23:09:52+00:00

I do the same as you mate. You gotta put rules in place. Its funny when they giv the ultimatum n u say no. Lol.

500dollarsinprizes · 2020-03-22T00:51:28+00:00

They’re still on the same game as they approach 40. Same. Drill.

In my experience, they agree to your conditions as the price to play. Then they dont understand why if they see you as relationship material, you still value them the same.

Know that by the time you get the ultimatum, she’s well onto her next options, and this is your time to let her exit. Why? You dont work hard for what she’s giving away for free.

Ilivetowork · 2020-03-22T02:26:50+00:00

From a women’s perspective . The reason this happens is that the woman becomes attached to you after few months of sex. It’s incredibly difficult for many women to maintain emotionless long term sex relationship . If you’re not looking for a girlfriend keep the time spent to a minimum and under 2 months . This way you don’t hurt anyone’s feelings.

Kronosfkg · 2020-03-22T09:55:53+00:00

Mgtow means going your own way, not being à monk. You create your own life on your own terms. But we all know its harder to it while being chained to a woman with mariage. Do whatever pleases you.

bonija · 2020-03-22T02:33:19+00:00

i’m always very upfront about what i want which is nothing serious just fun going with the flow. girls bite it and go with it and never really give me issues with it but even if they did i wouldn’t care all that matters is the honesty because at least in the end i don’t have to drag on lies and keep up with BS.

MTG_Enhancer · 2020-03-22T14:08:41+00:00

I’m married and the sex is horrible or non existent. Where are the working girls at? I don’t want to bother with going out with women or whatever. Just a quick bang and go is fine with me.

Sid_Insidious · 2020-03-22T17:13:15+00:00

These women are doing a lazy type of fishing called "trolling". Basically, they hang 10 poles on the back of their little boat and wait for a fish to take the whole bait, hook line and sinker. Of course, women and men online are playing the 'who cares the least wins' game now. Investing is a sign of weakness, and NON investing is a sign of abundance. It's really fucking twisted. So, even if you're starving if you maintain frame and stay aloof, picky and distance, you SEEM attractive. And attraction is ALL perception.

HarshTruth69 · 2020-03-21T22:04:40+00:00

The key thing here is honesty and communication of your expectations. There is nothing wrong with wanting something casual as it is nice to go to concerts and events with someone. But they cannot expect to play the ultimatum card knowing what they signed up for. I would just be careful with those coming back, as women tend to try to get their way one way or another.

LuciusCSulla · 2020-03-22T01:39:52+00:00

And what will you do if they retract their consent? That they "experienced" your scenarios "differently"? Can't or won't happen? It can and has, I know people who went through this. Be warned. We live in clown world with perpetual adolescents and children.

FlyingSeaMan509 · 2020-03-22T01:47:45+00:00

Good for you bro. Know the worth of your preferences, even if women don’t.

2020-03-22T07:43:09+00:00

The psychology on this as you get older, is that the more you mate with the same person, the more inclined you are to bond with them. You will often here men say "well, I had to in the end, she was always there for me." It's a long term strategy for her, but she will still keep fucking other potentials in the hope of the win. Wrap up your dick!

bassheadstang · 2020-03-22T10:43:17+00:00

I had a very similar experience for a couple years of OLD but always nailed em first meeting.

2 weeks later they start wanting a commitment and I say no.

2 weeks after that they are on to the next guy who will give them that commitment.

A month to 6 months later they’re texting me again.

Just had one try last night at about midnight. Lol

SpankKing_ · 2020-03-21T22:15:48+00:00

It’s because you give off boyfriend vibes you can blame yourself

liveyourbestlife83 · 2020-03-22T06:20:38+00:00

Under that women live ambiguously. That I. Their world it's ok to say no on a big commitment and turn around and change their minds. That's the entitled flakeyness, the selfish culture or era of women and the reason men are MGTOW.

ZenitGG · 2020-03-22T06:27:35+00:00

Lot of MGTOWers date casually. Its funny to see how hard women are trying to get men locked down into some serious relationship. I have the same experiences you just described. Ive dated a young cute girl two years ago. Met on tinder, spoke for about two weeks, then i called her on a date, first date was already action packed. Second date, hotel & hennessy, you know the drill. Then i went back to work, we kept chatting, few days later she started to be all up in my face and eventually told me shes in love with me. I was like hol up, you dont even know me, so i slowly ditcher because she was very suffocating, and i dont want any of that..

My next girl after this one fell in love about after 3 month. Yes, i was in an actual relationship with this girl at that time. And it ended because she was pushing the relationship and once again it felt suffocating, dont like my freedom taken away from me.

I blew away plenty of dates because i was way too direct about my intentions. I learned that i am not allowed to say that i just want to smash. Ive always had succes not telling girls that im just looking to have sex. That way most of them are happy to meet me, and i am confident enough that i always make my move on the first or second date. I dont do third dates.

philiciousX · 2020-03-22T10:23:01+00:00

You can be MGTOW and still do whatever the fuck you want - that is the beauty of MGTOW. My take on this for myself is this: I reflect a lot about myself and my thoughtpatterns and actions. If there is something I want to do I go into myself and ask myself if this is something I really want to do or if someone/thing got me to like/do it. I also still like to date casually. If dating is something that brings you joy, then continue doing it. Could be wrong, but when reading your post it sounded to me that you're pretty redpill, so if you're aware of the risks and behave accordingly then I don't see any reason not to do it.

You are even more MGTOW if you dont compromise your actions so you can call yourself MGTOW by some definition.

PachoHerrera0 · 2020-03-23T23:43:20+00:00

MGTOW is about doing whatever the fuck you want, it’s not a religion

unmasteredman · 2020-03-22T01:27:47+00:00

Sex with women is fine, so long as you've considered that the concept of consent is apparently malleable and interactions that are mutually consensual between two people today may retroactively considered inappropriate in the future. "Oh, you flattered her? That's manipulation which negates consent." Seriously, in 5-10 years, this could be an actual thing.

ikhwan_arif · 2020-03-22T03:23:01+00:00

don’t know if you’re allowed to still have sex and be MGTOW

Yes, you're allowed. They're shit testing you and you passed. Congratulations and keep on keeping on but stay safe.

MajIssuesCaptObvious · 2020-03-22T03:41:09+00:00

No marriage, no cohabitation are the 2 basic rules. I've even had a GF and been MGTOW. I just kept true to the 2 basic rules.

Some men have tweaked mgtow ideologies into their marriages somehow. Whatever works for them.

5gil135 · 2020-03-22T06:09:52+00:00

I am saying to my girl now, "Hey, we might stay together forever and we might not. Who knows? It's not like we're automatically together if we get married anyways so what's the point of it? Anyone can leave at any time. There's no forced anything." Been with her for six years that way. She flips out psychotic about every 3 months or so and I just call her crazy and just tell her to stop. She doesn't for a day or two but I just ignore her and keep calling her crazy. Then she gets tired of it." Buut.... it always comes back every few months. It's one of the costs of being mgtow I'd say.

TomahawkSuppository · 2020-03-23T12:25:39+00:00

Where in MGTOW does it say that you shouldn’t have sex or abstain from sex? It’s about self ownership and doing what works for you. For some it means not bothering to engage with women for the purpose of having sex. For others it is engaging with women to have sex. But the common thread in all of it is that you

Put your needs and your happiness first
You do not give another person leverage over your life.
You take no responsibility in fulfilling someone else’s fantasy or happiness, that’s on them, not you.

40k_fan · 2020-03-24T14:54:08+00:00

You look like a "MGTOW Chad. You know what you want, and you have the tools to get it. That's very interesting.

thats-fascinating · 2020-03-24T23:35:24+00:00

What do you actually want?

2020-03-29T13:50:18+00:00

Dude. Apps for me are a one maybe two fuck deal. For that reason. I don’t go to dinner with them. We meet for fucking. If they come over, they are quickly pushed out the door. If I visit them after I unload I’m out. There is no hugging and feel goods after. We both hit what we agreed to. I have FWbs and we understand one another. If she’s that good I may stay for a couple of rounds, but there’s never what I’d call a date, dinner movies etc.

I’m also 52 and prefer younger females, so it’s rare when they want anything more deep with me than just sex. And I’m good with that.

anubhav23 · 2020-04-09T17:57:55+00:00

Man, what your tips and techniques? Please share. Thanks in advance.

Ibanezguitarrocks · 2020-03-25T02:23:55+00:00

Despite what they say, women don't have sex for the sake of having sex to the extent that we do. Sure they enjoy it from time to time but their instincts push them to use sex to barter for resources. When they feel secure in a relationship they'll start looking for other strange dick, if they can do better. Only limitation being their looks.

HighMarshalSigismund · 2020-03-25T10:34:04+00:00

r/thathappened

medtexas · 2020-03-27T03:10:14+00:00

My dream is have sex with a woman who has a flat stomach... is that too much to ask

Constantly running into the same situation with girls

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Title	Constantly running into the same situation with girls
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