Purpose and Offspring, help?!

DonMelbourne · 2020-11-22T03:09:53+00:00

My advice: have children. Seriously. Don't worry about what "MGTOWs believe". It's about YOUR needs and YOUR hopes. If you feel strongly that the purpose of your life is to have children, THEN HAVE CHILDREN.

Marriage and having children is not for me. That makes sense with regards to my own needs, and at age 60, I am happy with my decision. But you have to do you. If MGTOW means anything, it is to strive for your own happiness without worrying what others say, even if that means making decisions that aren't MGTOW.

Don't treat MGTOW as a dogma. MGTOW is a rational choice based on the needs of the individual. It's not about what your mother wants or what society wants. What do YOU want? Best wishes brother.

burnett-lignon · 2020-11-22T04:06:52+00:00

Having a child doesn't guarantee your family name will continue. I have one daughter who is now 48 and lives in a group home for the mentally disabled. She was mentally impaired at birth, and now operates at the level of an 11 year old. If you feel like you need to have children you should, but realize it doesn't always go the way we expect. Best of wishes on your journey, whatever your decision.

rbep531 · 2020-11-22T03:21:58+00:00

There are countless other ways to make the world a better place and honor your mom's memory. Volunteer, donate to charity, or even adopt if you feel like you need to take care of another human.

Does it really matter, though? The family name won't mean anything when Earth is eventually destroyed by the Sun.

YouSaidChicken · 2020-11-22T03:24:48+00:00

Why would having children be your purpose, instead of, say, enjoying life and traveling the world?

Your family name doesn't end with you, I'm sure there are plenty in your tree that has that name. And names are meaningless. Remember the famous Shlanzkies from Poland? I don't either.

kakramer1211 · 2020-11-22T05:29:48+00:00

I just would like to remind all that there are many many many kids out in the world who would love to have a stable and loving parent. You all can do a great thing by either adopting or fostering a youngster who needs you. You do not have to knock some woman up and suffer all of that in order to feel the love of a family. Hell sharing genes with someone doesn't make them love you any more. Just think about it.

xinxinel · 2020-11-22T09:01:46+00:00

your mums choices are her own, you are not bound to them

human race is so close genetically you having kids or not doesn't matter, your same genes are out there doing their thing

Selegus123 · 2020-11-22T10:47:43+00:00

Your mom raised you because she wanted you to live my friend, i bet if you were to live a content and happy life, she would be proud of you.

TheApricotCavalier · 2020-11-22T15:31:26+00:00

It scares me to believe that the family name will stop with me.

Be honest, are your genetics really that special? Most people are pretty inbred already

tyronekaizentoro · 2020-11-22T17:09:12+00:00

In my opinion, the decision to have kids should always come from a logical place, not a place of emotional desperation. Bringing to child into this world just because you feel that you have to is never a good sign.

Taking care of a child from birth is a lot harder than most people think. Most people either have a child by accident or they glorify what life would be with a child. Another thing that you probably don't want to think about, is that with the state of society today, there's a very good chance that you could raise him/her right from birth, only for the SJW and extreme leftist crowd to turn them into something truly deplorable...

In my opinion it's better to be a mentor and a father figure to older young adults (mid twenties, late twenties) who you can see are already on the right path and possess critical thinking skills. It's always a pleasure to take these kids from good, to great, to legendary.

Also I've never understood the whole point of "the family name thing". There is no shortage of orphans in this world. Boys who don't have a father because he's either dead, abandoned them, or was taken away from them. You could easily take on one or even more of these kids, mentor them into great men and give them your family name.

There was a post here some months ago about an elderly childfree Mgtow who used his wealth to educate several kids and in the process they became doctors and other vital members of society. Now that's a fucking legacy.

Whether you chose to have a child of your own or not is completely up to you but think rationally and don't allow your biological whims to get the best of you. You also have to deal with finding a suitable mother to have a kid with who will be a great parent.

From your post, the worst thing that could happen to you is if you picked the wrong woman (very easy to do today) who seems great a first but then starts going behind your back and undoing all the good values you instill into your son. Then you son becomes a rebellious piece of shit who ends up bringing disgrace to the family name. Surely your mother would not want that.

2020-11-22T13:50:56+00:00

There's no reason why you can't have a child while being mgtow. All you should avoid is mixing the law into your relationship; no marriage. This means you will have to go to court for custody unless the mother is cooperative. Without the costs of a marriage and divorce you'll have some funds for that.

As for having a child. One day the child might ask why it exists. Maybe you should think about a better reason than that you were paying your dues to your mother. Not that there are very many good reasons, but I think that one will be dissapointing. Maybe enough so that you should think twice about having one for that reason. Maybe the day when you can tell them that they were wanted by you is going to be as good as it gets.

a_quiet_accountant · 2020-11-22T18:33:00+00:00

mgtow is about maintaining your happiness. That is why we recommend not marrying or having kids, because that gives a woman the power to destroy your happiness by making u her slave with the help of the government. if you are going to be more miserable without kids than with kids you only see once in awhile while u work like a slave to send a woman u hate money every month, then I guess you should have kids...

Metalcrazyx · 2020-11-23T00:04:02+00:00

The whole universe will end one day, reproduction has no 'meaning'. If you want children, have children later. Good luck finding a suitable female though

lorlezzy · 2020-11-23T07:04:01+00:00

Your mother raised you because you are an extension of herself and she loves you more than anything. If you want to have children that’s wonderful, but they do not define you and you are a whole interesting person regardless. You being alive makes her efforts worth it.

Title	Purpose and Offspring, help?!
Author	DaikonGlobal9691
Upvotes	1
Comments	19
Date	November 22, 2020 3:02 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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