Red pill rage

DonMelbourne · 2020-05-04T22:47:51+00:00

"Red pill raging" is really a failure to swallow the red-pill completely, and should more accurately be called "Blue pill raging". These are people who are angry, not at the red-pill, but at the blue pill not being true. Some part of them still wants to hold on to that blue-pill mentality, that blue-pill life. The rage is an indication of the strength that the blue-pill still holds on a person.

Once you've completely lost your blue-pill mindset, there is no hatred of women, and no red-pill rage.

Reciprocity12 · 2020-05-04T18:02:27+00:00

I think alot of the criticism is not that men are not due a RPR phase, but it has gotten to the point where it is not a phase. It's become a perpetual state. Look at some of these content producers who have been thrashing women and carrying on about feminism for YEARS. The modern mgtow has all kinds of tools and content at his disposal that alot of people have worked hard on(TFM's red pill grief cycle comes to mind).

I understand the tradcons and PUAs. I disagree with these teams that have emerged who are clearly not participating in the "going" or the "own way" aspect of the acronym. Also disagree that this perpetual anger is philosophical, introspective, or stoic by any measure.

Impossible-asset · 2020-05-04T18:59:13+00:00

This is an unpopular opinion: I think "red pill rage" is largely a bullshit excuse for just bashing on women because someone had a bad experience or none at all.

Seriously. I think it's a stupid term for "wallowing in anger, pity and angst that life isnt how you want it and you're just stewing in an inability to get what you want." That's what I picture every time I hear someone say they are in the "red pill rage" phase.

It's like going to the doctor to get the results if your biopsy, getting the news that you DON'T have cancer, and then being pissed off about it for months or years on end.

Why? I've known marriage was a bad deal since I was 8 years old. I've seen how women treated other men, treated me, and I decided I didnt like it so I quit chasing any of them. Greatest realization of my life that it was now mine to spend and I could drop them on a whim and keep walking.

Got my first hooker at 19 and havent looked back since.

"Red pill rage" is the equivelent of finding out there isnt a Santa Claus, and instead of just going on with life you spend the next 10 years being pissed at Santa Vlaus for not existing.

That's my personal take on it.

red-tea-rex · 2020-05-04T20:15:58+00:00

Ive been red pill knowledge aware for 30+ years thanks to some dysfunctional dynamics with my sister and mother, but even still I didn't realize how much getting positive female attention ruled my life and drove my behavior until the last year or two. I was quite literally not in the driver's seat. While I think young mgtows are responsible for their behavior, their powerful biological urges to mate backed my millions of years of evolution are in direct conflict with their newfound knowledge about female and sexual nature in a society that's only codified the total devaluation of the male for less than 50 years. The magnitude of that cognitive dissonance is like a freight train headed for a brick wall. I think it's fair to let them express their rage on mgtow2 however they want. Where else are they going to get support and understanding and guidance for this particular issue? There are countless more destructive ways they could channel the rage, this is the best lesser evil I could conceive of. In other words it's a cry for help. If in mgtow2 the enlightened and at peace do dwell, do they not have an opportunity to counsel new mgtows who are obviously struggling? Why do you think they complain? It is society, not mgtow/TRP, that tells these men to shut up and suck it up. The mentor dynamic is fundamental to mgtow.

Robert_is_a_Loser · 2020-05-04T22:49:02+00:00

That's exactly the thing. RPR is supposed to be a phase with a "beginning, middle and end." I'm critical of those on MGTOW because i am holding them accountable for their lack of self control.

I understand why they are angry and they are justified to be angry. However there comes a point where they need to build a bridge and get over it because it becomes detrimental. What happens when you try to tell them this? You get called a white knight, beta, cuck, etc.

I'd argue the "us vs them" mentality is of their own creation due to RPR because they are dealing in absolutes. Follow what the follow, feel what they feel, etc. or else you are the enemy. The members of MGTOW2 allow for nuanced discussion on various topics from multiple perspectives (including women) which further pisses off those in RPR and put the sub in their crosshairs. You can observe this on YouTube channels like Solotv84 where he has had interviews with women and had to check his comment section afterwards for being disrespectful to the guests.

Personally I'm rooting for those in RPR to overcome it and i love hearing stories of those who have beat RPR. Unfortunately for MGTOW1 there is a high concentration of those in RPR who want everyone to be angry like them or else they are "not a TRUE..." I'm down to help people who want strategies to overcome RPR.

The uncomfortable truth is that nothing is stopping those in RPR from asking for help except them being blinded by anger. In anger they lash out at anyone who shows them a path that doesn't involve anger. This is where the crab in a bucket mentality happens. As soon as someone is getting past their anger another member pulls them down like "bro you see this post on female dating strategies? Doesn't it make you angry? You better be angry or else you will be a white knight beta cuck feminazi" Yeah i know many people just ignore it but let's not act like it doesn't exist. It's often the first hurdle of newcomers. I don't think those in MGTOW2 are being critical of the newcomers with RPR. I believe that's a straw man. I think MGTOW2 is critical of RPR when it comes to people who for, whatever reason, cannot get past the RPR phase after many years. The difference would be like Person A on YouTube starting off making Red Pill content then moving on to other topics as they got over RPR while Person B started off making Red Pill content and saying the same stuff in every video to the point it becomes repetitive content due to still being in RPR.

NotherThrowaway284 · 2020-05-04T20:43:52+00:00

No, most of us absolutely have been in those shoes, but we've also outgrown them.

There is such a thing as overcoming one's own habitual reactions to things. We remember the pain well, but that memory no longer owns us.

Title	Red pill rage
Author	BboyLotus
Upvotes	1
Comments	16
Date	May 4, 2020 5:39 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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