Meditation & Frame

[deleted] · 2018-12-01T16:51:51+00:00

Meditation helps you see that half the shit going through your head at any given moment is just that - momentary meaningless shit. Then it's a lot easier to catch yourself when the usual triggers come up (old insults, anger, feelings of resentment, whatever), because you know it's just bullshit rattling through your head. And it gives a better perspective on how transient and irrelevant a lot of things other people say is too. This all ties in to the solidness of your frame. Plus just a general calmness - I've had people I've just met start going on about how chill and relaxed I seem to be. I'm nowhere close to where I hope to be yet, but that's my experience so far.

j_arbuckle2012 · 2018-12-01T21:12:34+00:00

It works. But only if you put the work in off the cushion.

You can meditate all day, through all sorts of mystical experiences, and still be nothing more than an unfuckable weirdo.

It's a force multiplier, not a force creator.

RuleZeroDAD · 2018-12-01T20:47:43+00:00

Some may benefit from it, but meditation does absolutely nothing for me.

Sample of one. This is why RP is a praxeology.

FoxShitNasty83 · 2018-12-01T13:40:22+00:00

A number of years ago meditation helped me break negative thoughts following some PTSD as I was unable to identify why I was having panic attacks. It helped me accept the thoughts as just thoughts and not attach to them just watch them come and go. my recent mindset challenges and reading have identified that meditation is worth starting up again. I read a lot of jon kabat zin specifically mindfulness. I for one would appreciate your take on meditation and frame, are you able to expand more specifically on your practice?

Eyeswideopend · 2018-12-01T18:37:48+00:00

Thanks for the feedback, I feel like I’m loosing out if I’ve missed meditation for a period of time because a of busy life , kids work etc my experience of women and especially my wife is a constant desire for attention, while meditating she knows she’s getting no attention and afterwards she usually gives me a lot of space.

Redpillbrigade17 · 2018-12-01T18:34:54+00:00

Yes. Plus like you said it shows to whoever is there (eg girlfriend/ wife / kids / family) that you have a higher priority and take a moment 100% for yourself to recharge/ be spiritual / be completely insulated from the world - but are still there in case there is an emergency &they need you. It is a strong frame announcement.

Plus it has actual neurological benefits. Personally I found that when I do it regularly it improves slightly the quality of my decisions, makes me a bit less distracted and makes me more aware &calibrated to my mission. It’s a tool to win the ongoing battle with (and make a friend of) your mind to get it to work for you.

Frosteecat · 2018-12-01T22:15:03+00:00

There are some great apps to help guided meditation. Once you try it, you’ll realize just how noisy your mind is. How full of chatter and trivia and self doubting fear. Eventually it becomes a refuge and a reset as OP has pointed out. “I am the jewel in the lotus.”

Old_Awareness · 2018-12-04T22:26:11+00:00

I'm Buddhist too, been meditating off and on for years but never very seriously (aside from a ten-day meditation retreat, which really should have been my wake up call years ago because coming back to my marriage was hell).

Rant, faggot, whatever: I'm in a fucked up place right now, the wife and I decided to reconcile after years and it was going well. Then I found she's been having an emotional affair through all of it. I found out by reading years of messages. My god it was AWALT here, AWALT there, AWALT fucking everywhere.

To add value: meditation is 100% about frame. You sit on the cushion and you "settle" into yourself. You practice becoming who you actually are. I've been using it to bring myself back from a really crazy place lately and it's truly the only thing keeping me from doing some really stupid shit. And I'm going to have to start doing it daily, once a week in a class just isn't enough.

Do a meditation retreat or a class and just keep with it. I tell my wife it's therapy to make me better, and it really is. Plus there are hotties in the class. :-)

Keep in mind that it isn't easy. It's serious work. And when you get good at one thing there's always a new challenge. Every single person that does meditation starts with the "I just go crazy when I sit down and do nothing". Yep... that's exactly it. You practice getting sane. Keep at it.

Eyeswideopend · 2018-12-01T20:15:32+00:00

Great reply - business is better with a clear mind

Eyeswideopend · 2018-12-01T21:17:40+00:00

I’m not so sure, I would consider it an understanding.

I use my grandfathers straight edge to shave somethings although I’m not meditating I’m very present and mindful of my actions.

Most people have something they do that requires great concentration and presents of mind - this would be akin to meditation although not in the way most people view it.

Title	Meditation & Frame
Author	Eyeswideopend
Upvotes	18
Comments	20
Date	December 1, 2018 10:44 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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