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How the Manosphere led us to develop better mental health services for men — The Centre for Male Psychology

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March 1, 2023
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https://www.centreformalepsychology.com/male-psychology-magazine-listings/how-the-manosphere-led-us-to-develop-better-mental-health-services-for-men

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Title How the Manosphere led us to develop better mental health services for men — The Centre for Male Psychology
Author a-man-from-earth
Upvotes 61
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Date March 1, 2023 11:00 AM UTC (9 months ago)
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Comments

[–]a-man-from-earth[S] 17 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm not a fan of the term manosphere, but this article is a nice answer to those who say: men, fix your own problems.

[–]vhisic 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

men, fix your own problems

sooooo...just keep doing what we always do, cause aint no one else fixing our problems and never have.

[–]a-man-from-earth[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Or, we can do what we do here: help each other.

[–]vhisic 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

we can give advice here, and thats great but the job of fixing our issues is still always going to be our own.

[–]a-man-from-earth[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's true no matter what.

[–]SamaelET 5 points6 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

build emotional competence and non-violent communication skills

Their website also has some sentences implying that men need to learn empathy, how to regulate/express their emotions. The starting point is still that men are incompetent, dangerous or bordeling psychos.

AWARENESS AND DISCOVERY OF YOUR EMOTIONS

In Tribes men’s groups, it is vital to understand your emotions.

Not only do we talk about them, but we also learn to regulate them.

You’ll be participating in exercises to train emotional awareness and empathy.

[–]Oncefa2 14 points15 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

We do the same thing with women in a clinical setting.

What they're describing is cognitive behavioral therapy or CBT.

I know it sounds off in this context because of the way men's mental health has been stigmatized by radfems.

But this is the goal of most forms of therapy. Controlling your emotions is what an emotionally healthy person does. And learning those skills is a good thing.

The irony is that men might be a little better at this by default than women, for whatever reason (social conditioning, biology, etc). Which might be why it came under attack by feminists in the first place.

[–]wes_bestern 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is a really good point. The thing is, as long as we're doing the identity politics thing, we will continue to view groups through their weakest links. If we didn't start from the bottom, the most dysfunctional men would be left out. It's the same reason Christianity starts with the baseline "everybody is a sinner". I'd hazard to guess the same logic is at play in radfem circles.

[–]SpiritualCyberpunk 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

as long as we're doing the identity politics thing, we will continue to view groups through their weakest links.

good point.

a more balanced view would be to look at a bell curve.
you wanna help those in need though.

[–]SamaelET 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What you say is totally sound.

But I don't like the implication that men's suicide rate/mental issuess are explained by men's incompetency when it comes to emotional regulation (particularly since men regulate their emotions very often). It is omnipresent in discourse about men's mental health.

It feels like saying "those silly idiots killing themselves because they cannot act as adults". I would probably not feel like that if the driving force behind men's mental health discussion was the inequalities in our society.

In addition, the almost omnipresent reference to violence tick me off.

I admit this is just paranoid thoughts of my part.

Edit :

I googled "emotional regulation support group" and of the five top results I have seen no mention of violence.

Worst : This association has both a Men group and a women's group. Guess which one of the following description correspond to the male and female group ?

Topics vary from week-to-week but you can expect us to talk about everyday stressors, relationship issues, difficult emotions, hardships, effects of Covid on emotional and physical functioning, grief and loss, and many more. 

Topics vary from week-to-week, but you can expect us to talk about coping with relationship breakdown, crisis, anger, stress, anxiety, depression, trauma, addiction, identity, grief, and healthy relationships.

Again I am perfectly aware that this is borderline paranoid thinking.

[–]Oncefa2 [score hidden]  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know if it's paranoia or if you're just seeing gender bias manifest systemically and institutionally throughout society.

At a certain point it's just a social phenomenon to study.

Including the related phenomenon of people being blind to it, and resistant to acknowledging it when it's pointed out to them.

Like I hear you.

We do not treat male mental health the way we should.

That's partially why this sub exists in the first place.

To be better.

[–]SpiritualCyberpunk 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

it is vital to understand your emotions.

i mean this is true, this will make you a more competent man. that will be harder to deceive

[–]SpiritualCyberpunk 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Here is a summary of the article “How the Manosphere led us to develop better mental health services for men” by John Barry1:

The article explores how some men who seek help online end up in the Manosphere, a network of websites and forums that promote various ideologies and views on masculinity, feminism, and gender relations.

The author argues that some aspects of the Manosphere can be beneficial for men’s mental health, such as providing peer support, encouraging self-improvement, and teaching cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) skills.

However, the author also acknowledges that some parts of the Manosphere can be harmful, such as promoting misogyny, violence, and extremism.

The author suggests that mental health professionals should learn from the Manosphere and develop more male-friendly services that address the specific needs and preferences of men.

The author cites examples of such services, such as The Centre for Male Psychology2, which offers online courses and workshops on topics such as male suicide prevention, male domestic abuse victims, and male sexual trauma.

Some bullet points based on this summary are:

Article explores how Manosphere can help or harm men’s mental health

Manosphere provides peer support, self-improvement, CBT skills

Manosphere also promotes misogyny, violence, extremism

Mental health professionals should develop more male-friendly services

Examples: The Centre for Male Psychology2, online courses and workshops

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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