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Advice to men

Leinadro

August 18, 2015
16 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://np.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/3hc3rp/advice_to_any_men_that_think_you_cant_recover/
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Title Advice to men
Author

Leinadro

Upvotes 16
Comments 12
Date August 18, 2015 12:53 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3hfvq3/advice_to_men/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/advice-to-men.973068
https://theredarchive.com/post/973068
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Comments

[–]Leinadro[S] 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I saw this earlier today and thought it would fit here. Its a man telling his experience in recovering from being raped by two women.

Stories like this need to to be told in order to help other men like him

[–]ArgKyckling 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I really like how the responses in the comments seem respectful to him, it seems that is becoming more and more common.

[–]ee4m[🍰] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link

This guy believes that if a guy is raped, he is a "bitch" (woman) .

Men rape women, women don't rape men .

And he needs conquests to prove to him self he is not a woman .

While I don't agree with the way feminists approach it (with hate and demonization and hyperbole), rape culture and toxic masculinity as they describe it are actually a thing .

Rather than dismissing them both as nonsense out of hand , perhaps we should be taking a different approach . because that is text book rape culture and toxic masculinity .

Unfortunately I feel I have to qualify that by saying I hope that is not another feminist rape hoax , because it conforms perfectly with what they say is happening and feminists are the way they are .

Also I have to qualify with Im talkng about the actual theories and meanings of them, not with what the blue haired swjs we use as sources say .

[–]hugolp 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

You are not correct in the characterization of the problem. That a man sees him acting like a woman as bad, does not imply that he sees being a woman as bad.

[–]ee4m[🍰] -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

By acting like a woman you mean being raped ?

Jesus .

You know what, the feminists are right about a lot of this stuff, and mra's are often ready to prove it .

[–]azazelcrowley 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, it's a stereotype that women are raped, not men. So yes, being raped would be acting like a woman, according to those stereotypes.

That the stereotype isn't true is part of the problem in the first place.

But hugolp is right. That a man acting like a woman is seen as bad, does not imply being a woman is bad. It implies deviance from expected norms is.

[–]ee4m[🍰] -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Right ... and ?

[–]hugolp 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No, by acting like a woman I mean exactly what he means that he felt like a bitch.

There is a claim by feminists that says that men are misogynistic because they see acting like a woman as bad. But that is another stupid claim by feminists to add to the list. That a man sees a man acting like a (traditional) woman as bad does not imply that he sees a woman acting like a (traditional) woman as bad. In fact, women get insulted for acting like a (traditional) man.

[–]ee4m[🍰] -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a nonsense conversation , saying acting like a woman is getting raped, people don't rape themselves by their actions .

Im not gong to respond to any more of this illogical nonsense .

[–]Leinadro[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh i agree his experience isnt free of problems. But i think its worth looking at because it (hopefully) comes from a man i that situation rather than some ideology telling us how men respond to being raped.

[–]ee4m[🍰] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah I agree .

The thing I'm saying that we as a movement are often denying his experience exists .

Not out of malice, out of not knowing what the things we are dismissing are , because they are put so aggressively .

[–]Leinadro[S] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes and that is something worth addressing.

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