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Approaching 60k

roland3337 · 2013-01-23T07:48:28+00:00

r/mensrights is near an interesting milestone: 60,000 members. Two years ago I think it was 19,000. Membership has tripled in 2 years....

roland3337

January 23, 2013

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Title	Approaching 60k
Author	roland3337
Upvotes	36
Comments	16
Date	January 23, 2013 7:48 AM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/mensrights/comments/1742a3/approaching-60k/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/approaching-60k.1604687 https://theredarchive.com/post/1604687

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[–]mikesteane15 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]Crimson_D823 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

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[–]Animus13112 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]theozoph3 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

It is important for these issues to be discussed in an open forum without turning into a hate-driven movement.

I understand that you've only started to explore men's issues, but it always bothers me that newcomers to the MRM expect us to foam at the mouth, or at least warn us that their support is conditional upon us behaving like well-mannered gentlemen.

In case you haven't yet figured it out, this kind of expectations are yet another expression of misandry. Men are facing all kinds of problems, and being considered like rabid animals for wanting to do something about it isn't really constructive for our efforts.

The program is to put an end to the disadvantages we face, not "hating". If you want to see hate, look at feminists, and read their propaganda. When your default attitude is one of suspicion against your brothers, you only reinforce the attitude that left us in the doghouse.

Peace.

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[–]theozoph2 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Well, sorry if I offended you, but I felt the need to point out that coming in with a "let's not turn into a hate-driven movement" is its own kind of a dick move.

Why would you feel the need to add this little gem, if not because you harbor suspicions that we are, in fact, a little "hate-driven"? Would you have added that if you'd introduced yourself to a LGBT forum?

I'm not saying you are a misandrist or an ass, Animus. I'm just pointing out that we all have been exposed to feminist propaganda, and that we all express, even without meaning to, some degree of animosity against other men. Just a friendly reminder to keep that attitude in check already has us baring our fangs and growling at each other, don't you see?

All I'm saying is, keep an eye on that shit, because it finds its way into the most innocuous interactions.

Peace.

[–]Animus1312 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

After re-reading my previous response to you, I can definitely see that my response did not need to be as combative as it was, and I do apologize for that. I do however feel that I need to point out, and I hope that this does not come off as vindictive as that is not my intention, that due to the nature of the discussions in these types of activism subreddits, often over-sensitivity, due to the highly controversial nature of the discussions leads to the animosity that you describe.

To clarify, I was not trying to say "let's not turn into a hate-driven movement", although I concede that I could maybe have worded it differently, I was trying to say that often Activism is one step away from hatred or a hate driven movement. If I look at Feminists that I have been in contact with (personal experience, not a generalization) a few have a 'militant' approach to the way in which things are discussed, in the sense that they hate all men and believe that all men are against their cause. This type of approach, be it from them or from us is simply not productive (barring very specific instances where general discussion is no longer effective which I am not referring to here.) I therefore maintain that the statement I initially made has nothing to do with gender or gender roles, it has to do with the approach. And I would say that to most activist groups for exactly the reasons I have said, it will often lead to a breakdown in communication. So again I will say, I support the approach on this subreddit. It has shown to contain civilized conversation, as well as enlightening discussion on important issues, to which I say, continue with this approach!

Again, I really hope you don't take what I say in this reply as combative, I am trying to clarify and express a sentiment of genuine support to the constructive discussion that I have seen on this subreddit.

This response turned into far more of a rant than I had initially intended, but I hope you take it from where it comes.

Go well man.

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