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Boris Johnson does not support making misogyny a hate crime

Kagedeah

October 5, 2021
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58800328
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Title Boris Johnson does not support making misogyny a hate crime
Author

Kagedeah

Upvotes 205
Comments 32
Date October 5, 2021 11:40 AM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/q1uls3/boris_johnson_does_not_support_making_misogyny_a/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/boris-johnson-does-not-support-making-misogyny-a.1077273
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Comments

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points45 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Does he not support hate crimes or just sex based hate crimes? Such weird wording in the headline.

[–]EmirikolWoker 40 points41 points42 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's an attempt to poison the well. "This group/person hates women" is standard propaganda fare whether it's an unpopular figure or an ethnic group.

(Which feminists should find odd, considering they believe we live in a patriarchy where misogyny is normalised and endorsed to promote men's needs, drives, and interests.)

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The idea you're more or less a victim based on who victimized you is a chronic insult to the idea of universal justice.

[–]Angryasfk 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is. But the point is that they want special privilege to “overcome” their “oppression”. It’s pretty hard to claim the daughter of a stockbroker, or a bank executive is more “oppressed” and will find succeeding in life and jobs harder than the son of a labourer. But feminists have somehow managed to pull this off. And now the “left” is dominated by people who believe this.

[–]rainbow_bro_bot 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

there is "abundant" existing legislation to tackle violence against women.

I agree with this. There is already existing legislation which feminists have had plenty of input on over the past years/decades.

The problem with adding "misogyny" to this is it's so vague. "Misogyny" generally means anything a feminist wants it to mean. Have a different opinion than a feminist? Then that makes you a "misogynist" according to her.

[–]UnconventionalXY 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Right down the path of criminalising anything a woman is subjectively uncomfortable with as a deterrence of that source, regardless if it is societally valid or not.

Woman fantasises that man walking behind her on pavement is going to rape her -> man is detained and tortured until he confesses and is then further punished so her feelings are validated, avenged and he will never do that to another woman.

[–]__pulsar 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just like every Western leader was against vaccine passports as recently as 6 months ago?

Words are meaningless. I don't trust Boris or any other politician.

[–]rahsoft 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You know the real reason why he won't support making misogyny a hate crime ?

​

Because it was discovered that the majority of misogyny online( which is the likely target of the misogyny crime law) was committed by women. As discovered by DEMOS, who were contracted by Yvette cooper(MP) and jimmy wales of wikipedia (- Notice a pattern here) to find the perpetrators of misogyny. Coopers response was to claim internalised misogyny !

So.. guess who will be the majority of prosecutions?

​

So if Boris does this then his "er indoors" won't be pleased, and he will be sleeping on the "number 10 couch"

[–]NoGardE 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And yet his party won't do anything to repeal any of the destructive legislation put in place by Tony Blair at the turn of the millennium. The Communications Act section 127 already makes misogyny a crime, if a woman is offended by anything. Why would they need more?

[–]g1455ofwater 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a hollow victory when men are more often the victims of violent crime yet women get more efforts dedicated to them. The story should really be why is there so much attention on female victims. That is the biggest inequality/hate crime happening here.

[–]Rockbottom503 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Boris will support whatever keeps the conservatives in power.

[–]mevswho 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

good.neither should misogyny be one. in fact, get rid of all hate crime laws

[–]leachlurker 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed censorship of discussion is terrible for the world

[–]goingoverthatplace 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He runs the same country that has infanticide law active so his words fall flat and I don't trust anything any of those politicians say.

His government came out with some of the most sexist worded, baby killer sympathising policy that I have read in my life, just look at my first post on my profile and you'll see what I'm talking about.

When I look at the faces of politicians in this country I see nothing but the faces of baby killer sympathizers and misandrists. People who I consider far beneath me, when these people try to dictate what is right and wrong I'm not trying to hear it.

[–]Surekha4u 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If misogyny is to be made a hate crime so shall misandrist.

Time to eradicate the cancer.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nothing should be a "hate crime".

a crime affects victims equally regardless of their membership in an arbitrary demographic group.

[–]MoonLight_Neko 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Misogyny (/mɪˈsɒdʒɪni/) is hatred or contempt for women or girls. It is a form of sexism used to keep women at a lower social status than men."

Can you believe how vague that is? A person can accuse you of being sexist to her and you can be prosecuted.

This sounds an absolute way to suppress men domestically and in public life in unimaginable ways.

[–]This-Icarus 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There should be no hate crime laws

[–]UnconventionalXY 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Laws should apply to criminal actions that cause objective harm, not to the source of signals that are interpreted as subjective hurt feelings.

[–]This-Icarus 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly it's just mean words, and sure the person doing the "hate speech" maybe a dick but that does mean it should be criminal, you start regulating speech eventually you get to a point like China where you cannot speak out against the government

[–]Angryasfk 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh horror!!!!

[–]DonnyJr2024 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What a fucking surprise!

[–]idreamofdeathsquads 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

well, thats a ridiculous concept. only a moron would even try to make a law like that.

[–]LoomisKnows 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What a non controversial opinion, I can't wait to get into work tomorrow and have my libdem boss talk about how shit he is for having this opinion, lol.

[–]BowForThanos 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The fact that most people don't even know about misandry is all you need to know about this topic.

I'm against misogyny and misandry obviously but people only care about one of them

[–]Targoth_orc 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, I'm gay and I've been accused of misogny because I refuse to date women I'm fucking gay. It's not "misogny" to have some god dam self respect.

[+]worldadvisor -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So.

[+]Ineedloveplz -13 points-12 points-11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Lol cuck

[+][deleted] 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]EmirikolWoker 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not supporting a feminist blasphemy law?

[–]lStriderl 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If women were in charge of creating speech laws, men would be in jail for ordering a hamburger.

[–]leachlurker -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good censorship and compelled speech is disgusting

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