Hear me out

dougpschyte · 2025-10-28T10:40:58+00:00

"They flood you with sexual images, not because they care, but because they know men's biology is easy to manipulate.."

Rewinding over five decades of my own life, find myself around my sixteenth birthday. "Not got a girlfriend yet?" became an incessant call from mother, sister, aunts, female cousins. They want you to get a taste, so that you will become a slave to their business model.

It's like pushing smack near the school gates.

Sex isn't the be-all and end-all for driven men.
https://counter-currents.com/2025/09/the-wright-brothers-and-the-wives-they-did-not-have/

It can rob a man of his drive, making him a slave, to the likes of Ms Milburn here.

https://wiki4men.com/wiki/Krista_Leighanne_Milburn

AbysmalDescent · 2025-10-28T14:58:07+00:00

This is delusional. It's not just about validation or the chase but connection, and it's a part of us regardless of whether social media exists or not. A lot of great men became great because they were suffering, and because they believed that in becoming great they would become worthy of love and ease that suffering. You can still love yourself and be lonely.

SidewaysGiraffe · 2025-10-28T15:12:23+00:00

Ah, nothing like more stoicism-promoting tradcon bullshit, is there? Why sacrifice your happiness for the approval of women when you could sacrifice your possibility of happiness for the approval of the Empire?

There are, I readily acknowledge, times when the only antidote for a given poison is another poison. But when both doses are lethal, the only reason you'd push it is to sell us something.

We HAVE heard you out- you and hundreds more like you, with the same pitch. That we're still around means we're not interested.

LateralThinker13 · 2025-10-28T15:01:02+00:00

Hear me out

All right, let's go. This should be good.

Modern loneliness is fake. You’re not lonely you’re addicted to validation and chasing people ,society has trained you to need attention like oxygen. Great men in history thrived in silence, not chasing approval or false love

Loneliness is fake? Yeah no. It's stupidly harder to make and maintain actual, flesh-and-blood friendships nowadays. Even for people (like myself) who aren't married to their phones, everybody ELSE is.

SOME great men thrive in solitude; but human beings are social animals, and much social interaction today is fake or shallow. Making real friends is much more difficult than it used to be (said as a proud GenX'er).

The system profits off your craving. every ad, movie, and “self-love” slogan is designed to keep you weak. they flood you with sexual images, not because they care, but because they know men biology is easy to manipulate with sexual imagery

Companies have always sold discontent, not products. This was true in the early 20th century, and is still true now.

do you watch films. everything revolves around chasing “forbidden love” or “breaking rules for passion” or "anything that raises your adrenaline so you get addicted and make them money" It’s not romance 🤡it’s moral decay disguised as “freedom.” they replaced discipline with dopamine

Again, you act like this is new. It is not. What is new is that OLD/social media/technology have replaced healthy face-to-face human interaction.

Religions or every philosophy back in the past have warned about control desire or be controlled by it, men called it honor, now they call it “toxicity.”

You're fixating on men's sexuality. But men's loneliness is more than just seeking to get laid - which most men are more successful at when looking face-to-face, btw, then via OLD. Men are very much lonely for male companionship, too; our male-only spaces are mostly gone, and no one cares if men are happy or fulfilled. All the air has been sucked out of the room for men.

Solitude isn’t punishment it’s detox frustration is needed to grow ,validation is the drug, and most people are high without even realizing it every thing requires you to endure pain even in writing/preparation for exam passion is nothing you cant choose to do everything yourself

Solitude is good, in moderation. It lets a man think. It lets a man be alone with himself, to plan and to work and to grow and to dwell. But man is also a social animal, needing both a partner/wife, and a circle of other men to be a man around. And without these, a man is a savage alone in the wilderness, not a happy, productive member of society. You focus on men's loneliness in sexual terms, but it's a much bigger, more serious problem than that, and your tone and words belittle its importance and severity.

Men need other men to strive with, to tell stories to, to share victories with, and to just be men around. Too many Western men have never had this, and don't even know it is absent from their lives. But it is crucial, and its absence is why society is crumbling.

youarockandnothing · 2025-10-28T15:36:51+00:00

I do think the solution to the male loneliness epidemic is not getting every lonely man a woman (which is impossible and short-sighted), but instead to get him true friends

My life is proof that not everyone over 30 is without a true friend group. A relationship is not going to last as long as you hope it will in most cases. The divorce rate is not high for no reason

dougpschyte · 2025-10-28T10:54:30+00:00

Our environment, even our 'reality' as reflected by social norms, is becoming increasingly feminized, increasingly totalitarian and controlled towards female benefit. It drives out man's private opinions and convictions. Without being on his own and knowing loneliness, man is increasingly lost among the waves of overpowering female influence, and its sea of coercive probabilities.

Title	Hear me out
Author	TheSlayer_52
Upvotes	38
Comments	11
Date	October 28, 2025 8:38 AM UTC (9 months ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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