How do we balance avoiding victim blaming with preserving the presumptions of innocence in sexual crimes? (x-post from /r/FeMRADebates)

2013-08-12T05:17:28+00:00

The way I see it, the rights of the accused are more important than the rights of the accuser. It's a fundamental rule logic that someone with the positive claim is responsible for producing evidence it occurred, since proving it didn't is nearly impossible.

Add to this the fact we are talking about taking periods of life away from a person and it becomes unconscionable to even entertain the idea the accuser should be treated in an extra special manner up to and including removing the burden to prove one's claim.

Anyone claiming rape should go through whatever process we have to ensure they are not lying. If that means a rape kit, then fine. If that means a polygraph, fine. If it means the cops grill you for 12hrs straight and pull your life apart, fine.

That's due process. I would expect and accept no less for anyone.

At some point in time, I think the late eighties, we started down this path of 'victim's rights'. Which is fine, but you're not a 'victim' until it's proven and your rights do not supersede due process until said process has occurred.

levelate · 2013-08-11T19:11:58+00:00

why is the presumption of innocence victim blaming?

is this actually a question?

guywithaccount · 2013-08-11T22:48:34+00:00

We don't need to balance them. We just need to stop using the phrase "victim blaming" inappropriately.

rightsbot · 2013-08-11T13:00:16+00:00

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DavidByron · 2013-08-12T16:04:18+00:00

This again.

You ever actually get any feminist to comment there?

DavidByron · 2013-08-14T17:44:03+00:00

I think that having a feminist debate board is a contradiction in terms.

Can't help noticing from your comment history that you spend all your time deleting comments at that "debate" subreddit. Can't help noticing that you only ever delete comments critical of feminism.

Total FAIL.

Title	How do we balance avoiding victim blaming with preserving the presumptions of innocence in sexual crimes? (x-post from /r/FeMRADebates)
Author	_FeMRA_
Upvotes	11
Comments	10
Date	August 11, 2013 12:58 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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