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How Multiple Accusers Create “Almost Insurmountable” Cases for Harvey Weinstein and Danny Masterson

icefire54

October 24, 2022
9 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/harvey-weinstein-danny-masterson-accusers-cases-1235233111/
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Title How Multiple Accusers Create “Almost Insurmountable” Cases for Harvey Weinstein and Danny Masterson
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icefire54

Upvotes 9
Comments 14
Date October 24, 2022 9:35 PM UTC
(3 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ycndzs/how_multiple_accusers_create_almost/
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https://theredarchive.com/post/1208344
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Comments

[–]icefire54[S] 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The problem of multiple false accusers is something that MRAs should spend more focus on. Many people accept "ok maybe one person is lying, but multiple people is just impossible". Although no one ever gives any argument as to why multiple false accusers is impossible, it's just asserted. But we know it happens.

https://ycitynews.com/22478/news/young-man-cleared-of-multiple-false-rape-accusations-at-trials-this-summer/

Even if multiple accusers does "lessen the likelihood" of them all being false, by how much has never been demonstrated. Although when multiple accusations happen, plenty of people are willing to believe all of them are true, yet holding the position that all of them are false is somehow more crazy? It doesn't make any sense.

[–]treeerty 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We will never know any of the statistics surrounding this issue, because even if funding was somehow found for a study around these issues the results would be so heavily suppressed and buried.

[–]AirSailer 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So any 3 women can get together and come.up with the same story, and there's basically no way to prove it didn't happen and since theres more than one there's no need of actual evidence.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Happened to Justin Bieber after all

[–]TRexDale08 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, a jury is supposed to weigh out who they think is innocent or guilty. That’s what e jury does.

But it does make it more likely that it’s true when multiple women have identical stories. Obviously.

[–]mikesteane 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, a jury is supposed to decide whether then is any reasonable doubt and if there is, they must find the accused not guilty.

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Having drinks that make a woman feel oozy and then going in the hot tub followed by sex is a pattern of predation to be used in court to indicate rape, if you have more than one female testifying to the pattern.

[–]paynetrain37 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Nooooooooo. Y’all are not out here trying to defend Harvey Weinstein.

And then you’ll complain later that everyone treat MRAs like a joke.

[–]icefire54[S] 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Well this specific post was not defending Weinstein. However, I personally do defend Weisntein. There is no good evidence he raped anyone. I don't base who I defend on who is popular, the whole point is to defend men's rights even when the whole of society is against it. If we just do whatever the mainstream wants so we don't get seen as a "joke" then we might as well just become feminists and promote female supremacy. That's how ridiculous you sound.

[–][deleted] 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

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[–]icefire54[S] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Even if quid pro quo sex is bad, it's no where near as bad as rape, which is what he is accused of. This "oh he's a bad guy anyway for doing something I don't like" is just a dumb red herring.

[–][deleted] 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]icefire54[S] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

LOL No that is not rape at all. If anything, the women are the ones doing the exploiting, but I don't want to lock them up for that though.

[–]OMGCluck 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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Breest’s attorney plans to call four other women, listed only as Jane Doe(s), who allege they were also assaulted by Haggis. According to Breest, one of these women, described as a publicist working on a television show with Haggis, says she was also raped. One woman claimed he grabbed her and tried to kiss her against her will during a late-night pitch meeting at his Los Angeles office, and another claimed he forcibly kissed her in a taxi.

Haggis maintained that the womens’ claims were part of a coordinated press campaign against him. His legal team argued unsuccessfully to preclude their testimony.

Paul Haggis claims that, after his “stormy exit” from Scientology, he was treated “as an enemy and defector,” according to his court papers, and he believes this “fabricated lawsuit is part of the Church of Scientology’s effort to destroy him.” Kraus ruled in pretrial papers that Haggis was allowed to present the jury with his theory.

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