Introduction and a vent.

WhereProgressIsMade · 2022-09-26T21:24:09+00:00

You could see if there are any male-only support groups specific to the issues you're facing. I've been in those in the past and they helped me work through things and just having guys to talk to that I could trust to keep confidentiality and be supportive helped.

Cultivating male friendships is hard, but it's pretty valuable to have a few guys I could call and meet for dinner somewhere and do a little venting over a pint and burgers when I feel the need.

Peoniesandpopsicles · 2022-09-27T03:21:54+00:00

Sorry for ya man, it sucks, it really does. But the good thing is there are many others that have gone through it all before and came out the other end, better off too…and you can learn from them on this forum, youtube, books, etc.

In short, I can outline the life strategy that I’ve distilled from a lot of work. Others will likely have some version of this framework, but many of the basics will be the same. Here it is:

Deal with any past or present trauma. Identify it, manage it, and it might mean major life changes in terms of relationships with other people that may be causing issues for you.
Eat healthy, or more healthy than you are eating now and keep improving once you figure out the basics.
Get good sleep. Don’t stay up late every night expecting to feel good during the day.
Have your finances in line. Don’t overspend and work hard and move ahead in whatever field you are in.
Maintain good relationships with your family…if they are positive for you.
Get some friends and socialize a few times a month. Friends can be found by doing activities you like or are good at.
Don’t drink too much. It really is a depressant for a day or two after drinking too much.
Get fit. You don’t have to do it fancy; get some weights and throw in some planks, push-ups, squats, etc. Your physical health is a fundamental building block of your mental health.
Identify something that is meaningful to you and pursue it with a lot of interest and energy. It could be anything. If that something meaningful is helpful to other people the possibilities are endless in terms of achievement, financial success, etc. Pro tip: Doing something meaningful is the meaning of life.
Don’t be an asshole. Be kind and considerate of other people. Everyone has struggles and complexity that we’d don’t know, so approach people with kindness. If they turnout to be an asshole, leave quickly.
Understand that having a bad day doesn’t mean tomorrow won’t be a bit better. Small successes each day will cumulatively over time become big successes.
If you are scared or anxious about something, face it head on, in small doses if it is a real big worry. Hiding from problems only makes things more difficult to handle.
Medication can be helpful if you are really low. It will help deal with symptoms in the short term but if you want to improve and stay well, you need to do all the other stuff listed here. If you are too drained to take any of the actions, talking to a doc about medication may be a consideration if you are depressed for overly anxious. If you go this route don’t expect medicating alone will fix your problems over the long term.

Ok, there it is. I think that covers the key areas you need to have functioning in your life. You can neglect one or two areas and keep going but if you neglect more than one or two, things will start to fall apart. It is hard work but it’s worth pursuing. You got this.

DavidByron2 · 2022-09-26T21:31:32+00:00

People have been oppressed throughout history.

And usually the society they are in doesn't exactly promote them complaining about it, although for sure it is unusual for society to preach the oppressed people are secretly running the country and "privileged" WHILE oppressing them. That part is new(*). Adding insult to injury is new. But the injury part? That's pretty fucking old.

(*) The Nazis also did it in the 1920s.

Reddit1984Censorship · 2022-09-27T14:31:20+00:00

You can still support women while being antifeminist (although is not required based on your personal experience), but part of the problem is that currently feminism holds monopoly on women/gender politics, so a path to victory imo would include re-directing women politics into an proper gender political movement something like egalitarianism or humanism that doesnt inherently discriminate men.

To face these issues i live as mgtow and advocate antifeminism, although i never get political with friends or family since they have a much more important role in my life.
In the sexual front i use yoga, weed, a rich porn collection, and im exploring bisexuality with the goal of maybe being able one day to have a relationship with a man since having one with a woman is not an option anymore for me (very slow process).
In the past i did some therapy, went to 10 different psychologists (7 women 3 men), and i found that theres hard dimishing returns in therapy because the professional basicaly forgets about what you said and gets bored of you, so if you ever go i recommend you not to go more than 8 sessions with the same professional, and i think therapy is only really worth the money if you find yourself in a situation where you are ''crippled'' psychologicaly to the point you cant even function properly as a person, once you can do your basics then stop therapy.

I wouldnt use the word ego because to me it implies caring about what others think of you, wich doesnt work in the current circumstance at least. Instead think of your attention, emotions, energy, time, money and so on as your private property, increase their value many times, think that for anyone to deserve your attention that person needs to earn it big, your attention is not a public asset for anyone to missuse at their whims anymore.
Basicaly currently society is taking away from us instead of givine to us as men, so the proper action in response is a defensive one, we dont owe anything to society because its already taking more than it should, so no guilt for not contributing because society is already taking our share of contribution without consent (for example using our taxes to specificaly help women while ignoring us).

And as of the goal or direction of life itself i see it as the ''refinement'' of my own self and the things i enjoy, i become a mroe refined version of myself as tiem goes by and i experience stuff and i get to know myself more and more.

whatever13576569 · 2022-09-27T04:04:27+00:00

Did only women dogpile you or show you a lack of support...or made you feel you couldn't open up...was it only women or did it also include men? In my experience, many people aren't great in those types of situations. I think realising that it isn't necessarily related to a gender might help you to feel less jaded.

It also has to do with you and the people you choose to associate with.

I view this as a positive, since it means that I can choose to associate with better people.

Title	Introduction and a vent.
Author	agenericusername9
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Date	September 26, 2022 5:39 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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