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"It would be advice-columnist malpractice to condone sex with a Jordan Peterson fan".

Triskerai

June 7, 2018
33 upvotes
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https://www.thenation.com/article/think-friend-jordan-peterson-fan-can/
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Title "It would be advice-columnist malpractice to condone sex with a Jordan Peterson fan".
Author

Triskerai

Upvotes 33
Comments 16
Date June 7, 2018 3:24 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/8pb6g8/it_would_be_advicecolumnist_malpractice_to/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/it-would-be-advice-columnist-malpractice-to.899977
https://theredarchive.com/post/899977
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Comments

[–]HiredMind 18 points19 points20 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It kills me how people can form an opinion about someone while knowing nothing about them.

[–]abunchashuga 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know, I brought him and Sam Harris up once a few months ago with my friends and they were just like "oh cool sounds interesting." I didn't even say I was a fan just that I thought they had interesting points.

Twitter starting hating on both of them and suddenly they're just like "oh god, here we go" and acting like I was reading nazi propaganda. I don't believe in dumping friends for having different opinions but that was cutting it pretty close. I didn't press it with them cause I didn't want to get into a heated debate in a friendly convo.

It just made me depressed that they didn't give those two names a single chance before they started calling them white supremicists and alt right figureheads. It's just fucked up to demonize people for no other reason than they criticize you.

[–]thrway_1000 13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The Nation is such a crap site.

Archive -- https://archive.is/sl3Mx

[–]mgtow-slacktivist 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

wow, "growing popularity of socialist ... ideas"

which alternate universe are they in?

[–]William__F0ster 13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What the fuck am I reading?

Jesus wept.

Oh, and also:

I’m happily married, so there’s no chance of a romantic future, but the friendship has been, and is, enlivening. We share many interests, but mostly we have an easy understanding—something slow and patient and unusual in this world. We occasionally talk on the phone about life, and we’re looking forward to having lunch when our paths cross again next month.

Yeah, they're gonna fuck.

She's just using the Peterson thing as an excuse to break it off if he gets too serious.

If she's even real, that is - which is highly doubtful.

[–]barretsgoodhand 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

She's pretty left-wing, from the looks of it. Moderate opinion of Jordan Peterson is better than the leftist media would have you think. His book is good.

The contrapoints video seemed to me to be style over substance. For people who are ignorant of JP, it might seem good, but (like most of his critics) it really misses the mark. In fact, IMHO, I think most of JP's critcs rely on their audience's ignorance. In other words, his critics are frequently bullshitters.

[–]sayshey 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I have yet to see a credible take down of anything JP says.

[–]Wakawakayukayuka 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Every time I see JP mentioned in a main or left-leaning subreddit someone has to comment about how hes the guy who wants to force women to date and marry undesirable men.

"Jordan Peterson jumped the gun when he said that it should be illegal for a woman to refuse to be in a monogamous relationship with an incel. Now the rest of the IDW have to circle the wagons and play defense on the topic of enforced monogamy."

Quotes like that are not uncommon since the hitpieces.

[–]barretsgoodhand 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. It's always a complete strawman, with some Red Scare-level hysteria thrown in for good measure. Like the "enforced monogamy" thing. He's talking about some level of baseline cultural pressure against divorce, right? (As opposed to the new attitude of "break up the family when your marriage becomes even slightly unfun.") But "credible" news organizations have articles that actually, seriously claim he wants to force women to marry men against their will. Seriously?

[–]Uhh_Political 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That was entertaining.. they seemed so sure of what they said and it was all so misguided..

Edit: I can acknowledge they had a couple facts, though. They are both lucky. They have the opportunity to discuss with somebody of an opposing view. Self evaluation and political education are important.

[–]Ted8367 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a joke.

[–]Chumpnzee 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Did anyone notice this nasty dig against male weakness:

If your friend is indeed a Peterson admirer, I also wonder if he might be depressed and lonely. Even more than rage, transphobia, or misogyny, the affect most palpable in Peterson’s public appearances is melancholy. He cries a lot, and the anger he expresses is of a brittle, depressive sort. I wonder to what extent his appeal lies in giving expression to (as well as providing narratives to explain) male sorrow.

Another proof that feminists actually hate weak men, regardless of what they are saying publicly.

[–]Man-n-Stars 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And equate any expression of emotion by men as a sign of weakness.

[–]Chumpnzee 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Interpret male emotion as male weakness. Then interpret male weakness as male dysfunction. Then interpret male dysfunction as toxic masculinity. And then you're set. Then you can do anything! The world is yours!!!!

[–]sampatri 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The article referred to this video as "wonderful"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LqZdkkBDas

[–]barretsgoodhand 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's a cracked article telling kids that's the "best video" on Jordan Peterson. Most mainstream critcis have no concept of what he's about, just squinting from a distance and lauding anyone who can create a negative picture from their blurry notion of the dim outlines. He threatens leftism, and is one of the few people to refuse to bow to hateful feminism (largely due to him simply remaining true to his ideals rather than him setting out to attack the dangerous critical theorists)-- therefore, he must be destroyed.

But every time they strike, more people see their bullshit :)

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