right now, as I type this, I'm sitting outside the gym waiting for my daughter to finish gymnastics. I'm the only dad here, surrounded by about 8-10 moms. First, every one of them is bitching about something, mostly about their husbands/boyfriends. But three women sitting on a couch down from me are complaining about how women are objectified by men because "naked women are all over television and magazines" and "I don't feel comfortable breast feeding because all men do is stare at my boobs while I do it." Not 1 minute later three guys walked past them heading to the gym and their topic immediately turned to how their husbands, (the ones that are working now to support them so they can stay at home with their kids) don't look anything like the guys that are in their early 20's among a few specific comments about their physique and appearance. I'm sure I am hypocritical but I try to be a bit self aware here. Are people really this clueless?