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[–]atmac0 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I don't see how this is Men's Rights. It looks more like cigarette company propaganda, and if anything has to do with women's rights, not men's.
[–]pickles10 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's pretty clear what the point is. It's a commentary on abortion. And as long as for men it's "his body, HER choice", and "her body, HER choice", abortion is a men's rights issue.
[–]atmac0 -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Still, this seems very anti "her body, her choice" even though that value is essential to the argument MRA's use against child support. If a woman does not have the option to abort, then she has no other option than to have the child, thus forcing a man to pay becomes acceptable.
When the woman has the option to never have the baby, and it becomes her choice to have it, then can you argue that the man should not be forced to pay for the child.
[–]Grapeban 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Is this meant to be an attack on abortion? Abortion is not a men's rights issue, because the choice to abort lies solely with the mother.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I have no words that can accurately describe my rage at this moment. If the picture didn't depict pregnancy, I'd probably say "Sure! Smoke five packs a day! Zero fucks will be given!" But there's a friggen fetus in there! My mom was born premature and with lung problems because of attitudes like this.
[–]EpicJ -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
I remember my mum was watching one of those teen pregnancy programs and one of them thought smoking was good for the fetus because it makes it harder for it to breath so it would develop stronger lungs so be healthier, the ignorance in some people astounds me.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I wish I could make that WTF face on my iPod, but I lack the symbols. I guess I'll just use this face o_o I can't believe that I'm part of that generation...
[–]EpicJ -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Found it it wasn't the lungs, though it was just as bad, she thought smoking made the babies heart work harder so it was like exercising it so making it stronger.
[–]DuckSir -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"It's my body and I'll do whatever I want with it, but I don't care about the thing living inside or me, in fact when he comes out, I'm going to cut a piece of him off because I want to."
[–]dannyigl -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is what happens when unborn are deemed as not having protection offerred by constitutional rights. If "personhood" began before birth, then the government could apply some rules regarding health of a fetus. This would also impact abortion rights, which is why pro-abortion people are against extending "personhood" to the unborn.
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