My circumcision was my rape

CrossHook · 2013-04-02T12:32:14+00:00

"Because maybe to you guys I'm not disposable, and maybe to you guys my pain is real."

Much love, brother. I feel your pain.

Equa1 · 2013-04-02T15:07:47+00:00

No it was not. It was a horrible event that happened to you. But it was not rape. Not everything bad is rape.

2013-04-02T12:20:35+00:00

Sorry I don't understand everything you write, but I you right that you mutilated by mother. It very serious crime to make changes to man's penis and she had no permission. This is sick religion. I see outrage when it happen to female, but somehow just okay when male. You have right to be very angry.

mikesteane · 2013-04-03T05:37:59+00:00

Circumcision is worse than rape.

rightsbot · 2013-04-02T12:04:17+00:00

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Visimicus · 2013-04-02T16:04:10+00:00

its really not that big of a deal. All you can really do is leave theoption open for your kid.

Newtonian_Druid · 2013-04-02T16:21:13+00:00

This is melodramatic if I've ever seen it.

My circumcision was my rape.

Really? To equate forcible sexual contact with a procedure, performed by a medical professional, devoid of sexual gratification for any party involved...that tends toward the absurd.

First of all, you have a point. I think that cosmetic genital procedures are genital mutilation, ESPECIALLY if it is not performed by a medical professional and performed on those unable or unwilling to consent. I'm sorry that your mother stripped you of your ability to make that choice for yourself. That was not right of her to do.

HOWEVER

"Rape"...that word...I do not think it means what you think it means. "Rape" is forcible sexual contact, plain and simple. You've got to use something else here to be taken seriously.

Now, I am a circumcised male. My parents made the decision to circumcise me as a child because of the purported health benefits. They did their research, spoke to my doctor, and had it done. My doctor told them that it would be best to do so for health reasons, which was the prevailing notion at the time. Since I couldn't make my own decisions, I was glad that my parents were there to make that decision for me using the best information they had available, just as they were there to make the decision to have me vaccinated, take me in for checkups, etc etc. Would I be angry if they had had me "snipped" for religious or cultural reasons? Maybe. But I certainly wouldn't call it "rape," nor would I vilify a potentially beneficial procedure based on my own experience.

You've managed to misrepresent what the AAP has to say about circumcision, namely that " the American Academy of Pediatrics found the health benefits of newborn male circumcision outweigh the risks, but the benefits are not great enough to recommend universal newborn circumcision." You said, in another comment:

There are no health benefits offered by circumcision even the American Association of Pediatrics acknowledges that it's "purely cosmetic" as I said if you bothered reading the post.

Hmmm, well even though that isn't what they said, the actual findings of the AAP alone are not enough to justify circumcision. What it looks like, however, is that you hand-picked ONE source that concludes, at best, that circumcision is a grey area. If you'd looked any further, you'd see that the World Health Organization has found compelling evidence that "male circumcision reduces the risk of heterosexually acquired HIV infection in men by approximately 60%." Now that looks like two reputable sources that, on the aggregate, seem to advocate male circumcision as a health benefit.

But your main point stands, mainly, that it should be a voluntary procedure, especially if there is no immediate risk to the infant or child. The WHO, in fact, is actually a proponent of voluntary medical circumcision. But what if, as some state, "Studies report few severe complications following circumcision. However, mild or moderate complications are seen, especially when circumcision is undertaken at older ages, by inexperienced providers or in non-sterile conditions." What if the risk of HIV/AIDS was endemic in a population, like in Africa, and the best course of action for millions of people was to perform circumcision on infants who, statistically, would suffer very few complications compared to the older male population?

At the very least, we need to have an open dialogue about circumcision and its potential benefits, as studies are, overall inconclusive. It should no longer be a cosmetic procedure, certainly, but there may be instances where it is useful. Finally, what happened to you wasn't rape.

TL:DR: you condemn all circumcision based on your own anecdotal experience and cherry pick evidence to support your claim, misrepresenting the conclusion of the singular study itself. You equate forcible sexual contact with a (sometimes) misguided procedure, then, you attack others for criticizing your viewpoint, even though they have every right to do so. You have a point that (in some cases) the agency of the child may outweigh the health benefits of newborn/child circumcision, but you speak as if that “fact” is universal or definitive.

EDIT: Fixed link formatting.

ilovenotohio · 2013-04-02T21:38:14+00:00

Just let go. Life is so much better without all of that rage. You are beautiful how you are. You can't go back again, so it's better to find the beauty in yourself and make sure not to pass along the damage to someone else.

bsr101 · 2013-04-03T01:03:45+00:00

Whatever, many medical doctors around the world recommend it. I think you should just view it as a blessing in disguise. It's not like it makes a huge difference to sex anyways, it just looks better and is cleaner.

You're also being a little bitch. it wasnt like rape. You should have no pain. There are real rights out there, this subreddit is a joke.

Too_Many_Cats · 2013-04-02T14:54:42+00:00

Yeah, I don't understand why feminists invented circumcision when they themselves protest against mutilation.

I also agree that they always find one group of people that they think clearly causes all the problems of the world and blame everything they can on it. What kind of messed up mindset does someone have to have to do that?

All those feminists protesting in favor of circumcision are a real problem!

bsr101 · 2013-04-02T13:23:22+00:00

I'm tired of these circle jerk-esque threads about circumcision.

I was circumcised as an adult, at 21 voluntarily. I had researched the pros and cons of it, and decided it was in my best interest.

Firstly, it doesn't reduce sensitivity. I think masturbating dry with a death grip is probably the problem of most men who claim they 'loose sensitivity'. Stop masturbating for a week. See how far you progress. Anyways, my sex life has been fine.

Second, the whole "females prefer uncut after exposure" is BS. I am from Finland. It's not practiced here at all. Every woman I have been with likes it. You know why? Because people like things they deem 'exotic'. So to an american women uncut is largely exotic.

The health benefits are weighted far enough in circumcision's favor to warrant it done to baby (neonatals?).... There are numerous studies of it.

Title	My circumcision was my rape
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Upvotes	8
Comments	63
Date	April 2, 2013 12:03 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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