"No true feminist" headbanging

rogosk · 2011-05-01T03:31:44+00:00

True feminism is everything good about feminism. Fake feminism is everything bad about feminism. Therefore real feminism is perfect and anyone who criticizes it is a misogynist caveman.

aetheralloy · 2011-05-01T10:54:06+00:00

According to feminists, feminism is all the good parts of feminism and none of the bad parts of feminism.

kloo2yoo · 2011-05-01T03:15:56+00:00

http://www.reddit.com/r/Feminism/comments/h0c5j/what_is_feminism/c1rs6gv

same convo, more context.

libbykino · 2011-05-01T22:53:23+00:00

I'm surprised the No True Scotsman Wikipedia page hasn't been linked yet. It ought to be the de facto responce for anyone that tries to use the "No True ___" defense, and really it's all that need be said.

thetrollking · 2011-05-02T09:35:10+00:00

[–]circa285 -11 points-10 points-9 points 1 day ago

If you study philosophy and you want to define the subject of "philosophy" you cite philosophers. If you're studying mathematics and you want to define "math" you cite mathematicians. If you're studying physics and you want to define "physics" you cite a physicist. You wouldn't cite a non-governmental agency to define any of these fields of inquiry.

The point, you have to actually work within the discourse not from without.

Furthermore, it isn't a problem that each feminist will give you a slightly different definition of "feminism" in the same way that it isn't a problem that each philosopher will give you a slightly different definition of philosophy. To claim that variation within a field discredits that field is simply absurd.

There are areas of emphasis within all discourses that will give you similar answers to the same question. Particle physicists will answer a question in similar ways that may contrast with nuclear physicists' answers to the same question. This does not mean that they are not studying science or that the differences between their answers invalidates science.

I have every right to ask you to be specific. What you've done up to this point is simply say "you're wrong" without giving rational reasons as to why I'm wrong. This is sloppy.

edit in italics

WUT???

Define math and cite mathematicians? Who the fuck does that? Who cites physicsists to define physics? Huh? I am really confused here. Gravity doesn't change based on what physicist I quote. It changes based on mass and whether or not I am talking about black holes or space time and it's relativistic properties or based on the size and mass of a celestial object. Gravity, at near earth constants, is 9.8 ms^2. It changes based on physical characteristics of the universe arount us and how we, as humans who empiracally observe it, define it. Same goes with math. Mathematical constants don't change, unless we change from a base ten system to a base x system. PI will always be PI, it may have different numbers but it will always exist in our observation and testing or scientific world, whether it has different numbers or not. For example/ it may have different numbers if we were using a base 8 system or a base 3 system but we use a base 10 system and that is why pi is what it is...wut tehy fuck.

See guys? This is why I am a 'misognyst'. Trying to argue with these women is like talking to a brick wall, hell I could get more info from talking to my dog...I really could, atleast my dog will use some basic language to talk back with me...she will wag her tail and even mimic a smaile and even wink a eye to tell me she is trusted by me...damn...just damn.

To elaborate, math is math no matter who the mathematician is. Physics is physics no matter who the physicist is. I have never, and I have met and know and my entire family are physicists, met a physicist who will claim that physics isn't physics because they believe in Newtonian or classical mechanics and therefore these stupid fuckin quantum mechanics guys/gals are evil and should die...wut the fuck?

One thing I find interesting and frustrating as all hell is that they actually do lie to you in lower level physics classes. I am not a physicist but my brother pointed out how they do actually lie to you in lower level undergrad classes about certain properties. I found that really fuckin maddening because I failed some of those classes because I thought differently than the book said and now my brother is working in a specialized physics career and just recently learned that what he was taught was bullshit and I said, WUUUUTTTT? I asked those same questions and got kicked out of the class a month later...wtf, aaah fuck physics and that major and I changed majors to philosophy only to realize that it was taken over by ideologues. The entire school system is feminized and you only have to look at feminine based spheres to understand what feminization does to discussion and argumentation...it destroy it and become circle jerking and echoe chambers.

ninja edit: for anyone who wants to talk shit about grammar, based on reading feminist shit...how am I supposed to know what is right or wrong, they don't even know...lhaahahahah

fondueguy · 2011-05-03T05:45:39+00:00

Holy fuck. Raven is awesom in that thread!!!

pakmanishere · 2011-05-01T13:19:56+00:00

r/feminist circlejerk.

Title	"No true feminist" headbanging
Author	kloo2yoo
Upvotes	8
Comments	16
Date	May 1, 2011 2:31 AM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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