Now – THIS is ‘patriarchy’.

radrler · 2013-07-16T10:59:19+00:00

GWW has a very good talk where she explains the actual Patriarchy. Basically, Afghan women aren't only oppressed, they are also provided for and protected. Obviously, it is not something to aspire to, but the important distinction is men don't oppress their wives and mothers and daughters, they're slaving away at work and going into harm's way for their families. If you focus solely on the women (as feminists are want to do), you don't get the whole picture.

Western women (supposedly) trade being provided for, in exchange for their freedom and equality. Afghan women trade their freedom and equality for being provided for and protected. It may not be ideal, but there are trade-offs, it's not just evil men keeping women down because they're evil.

Of course, what actually happens in the West, is women still expect men to make the money and serve in the military and pretty much kill themselves to protect a woman in danger, while demanding equal treatment and representation in all walks of life.

You can't have it both ways, ladies. Either you're "the fair gender", are treated with respect and piety, get lighter sentences and aren't responsible for your own sexual conduct, or you're a man's full equal, who accepts the same risks and accountability. Feminism pays lip service to the latter, while actually lobbying for the former.

TLDR: Don't diss Patriarchy till you tried it.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2013-07-15T23:30:38+00:00

The law addresses what are otherwise everyday occurrences throughout Afghanistan, and would give Afghan women formal protections from such common practices as child marriage, forced marriage, the giving of women in marriage to settle disputes between families, and the selling of women to pay off family debts.

And yet the feminists that rail the loudest against the patriarchy here (that allows women to do porn and be stay at home moms, the horror!) will condemn anyone who criticizes this cultures as being "racist" against Islam.

Modern feminism is (almost) beyond parody.

UnamusedPunk · 2013-07-15T21:36:22+00:00

The sad part is, Feminist complain about problems in the country where they have the least amount of problems. You never hear them complaining about real problems of patriarchy these women face, or real rape culture in entire continents like Africa.

Title	Now – THIS is ‘patriarchy’.
Author	blueoak9
Upvotes	20
Comments	3
Date	July 15, 2013 8:59 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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