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[–]TheShShCreature 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I thought it was more like 1 in 4
[–]noriann 14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If we count things like "emotional abuse" or "controlling behavior" it's probably more like 1 in 2. On the other hand we shouldn't fall into the feminist trap of characterizing every behavior in the most alarmist and extreme manner.
[–]TheShShCreature 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I think this is definitely true.
[–]Avistew 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I guess these are the figures they have in England?
[–]FemaleIsEasyMode 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Scotland had 1 in 4 for physical abuse. Add emotional abuse and it will sky rocket
[–]Ovv_Topik 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's only 1 in 6 because the majority don't report it.
[–]abend2 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Should be changed from "Domestic Abuse Affects One In Six Men in Their Life Time" to " One in Six Men are Victims of Domestic Abuse In His Life Time". The first wording is vague and most normies will think that means 1 in 6 men are somehow the perpetrator or only peripherally involved.
[–]dontpet 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I do health promotion to men and bat these things around on a regular basis with others
I like the poster and the effort but don't like that last line, "It's time to face facts and take a stand".
Let's say I'm ambivalent about it. It might encourage some men, that logic. Those guys that with some encouragement find the courage to take action.
It might turn off some men and leave then feeling inadequate. Those guys that don't take action are spineless is the implication. Many men already believe this, especially if they live with an abuser, and would get that message from sentence.
There are lots of logical reasons to stay with an abuser. She controls the kids. She controls everything you own. You strongly believe she will use the system to punish you leaving her. Those guys have already faced facts, done the calculation and accept their fate.
And what about those guys that have tried and the police arrested them instead. Or did nothing. Or were told by a helpline that they don't help men. Those guys need reassurance that they will be listened to.
I think it could be done better, so give the project a B so far. Glad to see they did it.
[–]Imnotmrabut[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
So what would be the best strap line for a "National" campaign, or the line that a national charity such as Mankind could adopt to unify efforts and image.
[–]dontpet 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'll put a few ideas out there but I'm pretty low on focus right now.
I'd try something that tells the man when they call you expect they will be telling the truth. That you will be worried about someone stepping in and making decisions over you and your children. Something that says we've been there and can suggest have some practical steps the man can take to improve things for himself.
I wonder if they 1 in 6 is not as direct as it could be as well. Men really need to know that they aren't the only one, which is partly the point of that line. It also leaves them thinking only of intimate partner violence when a significant number of men are more likely to be experiencing others on their home abusing them. 75 percent of elder abuse family violence deaths are men for example.
How about...
Men get abused by family, partners, and others. We've been there and managed to move things on.
Call us to have a first conversation about sane options.
I'm sure I'd come up with better if inspired by coffee and a few others.
[–]Imnotmrabut[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Do you have a source for the 75% elder abuse deaths being male?
[–]dontpet 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've only seen the calculation done in New Zealand. This is the source. http://canmen.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Mind-the-Gap-Report.pdf
My point is that family violence is what victim services do. Doing an advertising campaign even if you are only targeting intimate partner violence would be done with awareness of how it affects those other victims.
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