Question/rant for MRA about 'rape is rape' and double standards.

wanked_in_space · 2015-03-13T15:51:06+00:00

Why are they made into chicken flicks, where this plain, obsessive chick gets Mr. Dreamboat. Yet if it was a plain obsessive dude, it would be creepy. Anyways, that's the end of my rant. Would love to know where you all stand.

In 40 Days and 40 Nights, Josh Hartnett is raped while literally chained to a bed and he has to be for the girl back.

How fucked up is that?

Ultramegasaurus · 2015-03-13T12:55:47+00:00

Why do women have so much power when it comes to crying rape?

Pussy is valuable. Pussy is holy.

And don't they realize that crying rape or sexual harassment every time a guy so much as looks at them in a way they don't like, is actually making rape into a joke.

Because they don't give a fuck. Actual rape does not concern most feminist activists and their believers, else they wouldn't categorically oppose any practical measure women could take to prevent rape. To them, it's all about keeping men down and having power through proxy violence.

GenderNeutralLanguag · 2015-03-13T13:27:34+00:00

The problem with "rape is rape" is edge cases. When talking about someone so drunk they are passed out on the floor in their own sick, there is not argument that it's not rape. When talking about someone jumping out of the bushes with a tazor, there is not an argument that it's not rape.

"rape is rape" is the denial of the existance of edge cases. Everyone should know that a person passed out on the floor in their own sick can't consent to sex. The edge case is drunk but still functioning. "rape is rape" so that is rape. The edge case for drunk but still functioning is had some, but not drunk. "rape is rape" so that is rape. The edge case for that is had anything to drink. "rape is rape" so that is rape. The edge case for had some to drink is there exists the possibility of having had some to drink. "rape is rape" so that is rape.

There exists with out exception the possibility that they had some to drink, booze exists and without being excessively controlling you don't know if they consumed any. As a true statement there exists the possibility that they have had something to drink. Therefor all sex is rape.

My stance is that this is asinine, but it is the current cultural norm under feminism. I can't draw that line for you, wish I could. There needs to be a line well shy of all sex is rape, but there isn't one. To function in the world the best you can do is to recognize the reality and make rules for yourself that protect you.

Rape is a crime. All sex is rape. Therefore if you don't like prison, don't have sex.

MRSPArchiver · 2015-03-13T12:19:56+00:00

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Hyperlingual · 2015-03-13T13:08:24+00:00

I honestly don't see the "intoxicated = non-consenting" to be a big issue. It makes sense. I'm not saying it's entirely right: it's horrible for any couple that, like normal people do, may have sex after having some wine or returning home from a party. It places a criminal label on entirely harmless behavior. But that's just where you draw the line on consent which is a different issue. The gender comes in when it's not applied fairly, and that's the real issue. I don't think it's about "when do women take the responsibility for their actions" and instead "why is it that man must and women don't", since a man and a woman, equally intoxicated, will only be seen by statistics and judicial systems as a situation of the man raping the woman, rather than the legally implied, and admittedly absurd, situation of mutual rape.

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Title	Question/rant for MRA about 'rape is rape' and double standards.
Author	aykayday
Upvotes	19
Comments	25
Date	March 13, 2015 12:19 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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