/r/MR, a request

2012-09-08T04:01:43+00:00

A worthy goal, but what exactly are asking? Are you just trying to raise awareness? I would abandon tumblr as a lost cause, but you are more than welcome to stake land that deep in enemy territory.

truthjusticeca · 2012-09-08T04:04:40+00:00

Yeah that's a good post there, keep your eye out for others. From what I know about tumblr, it seems to be more suitable for memes rather than discussion. Since you know more about it, what is your opinion? What do you think would penetrate the unconscious masses and wake people up?

truthjusticeca · 2012-09-08T04:15:14+00:00

I feel that I need to be careful with how I present this information in a way that can't be brushed off as "white men bitching"

People will brush it off if they want to and use a variety of justifications for doing so. I think the key is to subtly attack basic misunderstandings repeatedly and from a number of different angles. Don't worry too much about feminists, if they unfollow, then they're just doing you a favor.

rightsbot · 2012-09-08T03:24:17+00:00

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ErasmusMRA · 2012-09-08T05:48:31+00:00

Few more cases of interest:

If you pass out at a party and a girl rapes you while you're unconscious and becomes pregnant, you could be forced to pay child support.
If you are underage and a woman has sex with you and gets pregnant, you will have to pay child support, even though what the woman did is statutory rape. 14 year old boy paying 34 year old woman child support? No problem!

Check out these two articles:

http://www.supportguidelines.com/articles/art199903.html

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig2/baskerville2.html

Scandimrthrwway · 2012-09-08T12:24:55+00:00

A suggestion: clean comparable real world scenarios of how men's situation can (and in someplaces is) be better.

E.g. "In Sweden, men too get 6 months of parental leave."

Or

"In Germany, men can play with their kids without being suspected as a pedophile"

Or

"In [i don't know where], false rape claims are a crime"

Or

"In Canada, there is no draft requirement for men's student fiscal aid"

Or

"in Finland, Shared custody with capped child support is the default"

Pointing out, how "easily" things could be more equal and often are when looking out of the box. Yielding better results (hey, Europe is sexy...) than being entrenched in status quo.

2012-09-08T13:15:11+00:00

I don't think you need to be that careful with the info as long as the information is either coming from a direct source or from a reputable outlet. Because either way people, ie feminist and white knights, are going to dismiss it one way or another. As they say keep hitting the drum and people will get the message.

EvilPundit · 2012-09-08T04:19:54+00:00

Hmm, I assume your self-description is done in Homestuck style (never played it myself). Perhaps you could create a similar-styled thing covering a men's rights issue?

That, of course, would require familiarity with a world that I don't know. :)

dumbguyscene28 · 2012-09-08T04:26:12+00:00

Tyler, take a look at a new website that vegibowl created http://www.reddit.com/r/LadyMRAs/comments/zexsq/new_website_feedback_wanted_xpost_from_rmensrights/

That site looks great, and in my overview, speaks to some issues that are about as uncontroversial as they get.

You may wish to work with vegibowl to improve the site, to ask questions and understand the issues, and then to promote that site on tumblr.

(Actually what I would love to hear that you and vegibowl are doing, truly, seriously, especially since you are both young and a gamer and since vegibowl is (I think) a woman, is to create some videos for each of these issues as a counterpoint and complement, not as a direct opponent of the Feminist Frequency videos. Feel free to agree with and reference aspects of the Feminist Frequency Kickstarter Gaming Trope videos, and then introduce a few themes from mens rights. That's a whole lot more than you are asking to do, but, it would be sweet, and a young gamer on YouTube along with a woman MRA might be able to pull it off with integrity.)

Title	/r/MR, a request
Author	tforge13
Upvotes	34
Comments	14
Date	September 8, 2012 3:24 AM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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