The Draft

198_Dudes · 2018-04-17T19:54:01+00:00

1) WW3 around the corner! Yeahhhh..... I guess if they tell you to panic you feel obligated...... (hint: WW3 isn't around the corner. In fact, there is some talk of NK and SK officialy ending there skirmish)

There are three ways to look at the draft. Or registering.

The first is that the status quo is all kinds of fine, why are we fucking with something that isn't broken?!?!?!?

nuff said about that.

The second is that we need women to register. Be careful with this. Be careful what you wish for - you might get it. I'll get to this in a moment.

The third is that it needs to go away. I am big with this. I think it is an antiquated system that has no place in our system. That politicians are too squirmish to use it and it just needs to disappear into the history books.

Here is the deal with women. The idea with the draft is generally that we need more grunts.

Currently, as the system works, a young person can walk into a recruiter office and select a couple of career options and be confient that as long as they keep up the moral clauses and grades up they won't be knocking on doors in a hostile country anytime soon.

Some people want to do that - I have tremendous respect for them - but some people don't and the military has ample opportunities for those people. Currently.

I have a question for ya.

What is going to happen when the armed forces feels they need more MEN grunts, but congress forces them to accept men and women - neither of which care to be there?

They will get there men. They will get them from the enlisted people that signed up to do IT work or clerical work or engine maintenance or whatever. They will put the female draftees in those positions.

In short, be careful drafting women. It might backfire.

PlastIconoclastic · 2018-04-17T19:11:01+00:00

I discussed men’s rights issues with a feminist friend of mine who is possibly the most Egalitarian feminist I have ever met. The draft issue upsets her so much and has since she was a teenager that she filled out her selective service card and sent it in when she was 18. And I had to inform her that they just throw them away for people who do not qualify because their female but I am still impressed with her dedication. She certainly doesn’t take the completely ridiculous position that women shouldn’t have to be involved in wars because all wars were started by men.

CreeperCooper · 2018-04-18T16:30:52+00:00

If men should be drafted, so should be women.

Yes, on average, men are stronger and are better fit for service. But, that's just that: the average. There are some beast-like ripped women out there.

If security of my nation is concerned, I'd rather send the woman who spends 20 hours in the gym every week than some stocky guy who can't run for 10 minutes.

Set a standard, if a man or woman doesn't reach that standard don't put a gun in their hands!

HBK05 · 2018-04-17T16:48:57+00:00

has anyone ever come across a genuine attempt by feminists (who want equality) to push for women to be selectable in the draft

Feminists only want the privileges that come with being a man. The responsibility and hardships are not welcomed.

I think equality works both ways, the pay gap is bullshit but the work death gap is not. Shouldn't people thay genuinely want equal treatment be campaigning for this?

Men and Women are not equal. This does not mean women are bad, or worse than men, but we can compliment each other's work. Men for example are faster/stronger, so jobs that require physical strength should be given to men. Women are known (not proven) to be better at working with young children, and I believe this is partially due to their Biology/Instincts, therefore, jobs working with young children should be given to them. We already see this, but the reason given is not because of biology, it's because of people's PERSONAL choice, which just so happens to line up with biology.

Anyway, I am a MGTOW/Passive Supporter of the MRM and I don't believe we should draft women. They are a liability. Just like in the police force, they have LOWER standards and cannot preform at the level of a man, on average. Therefore I'd prefer just men, if you get wounded in battle, you're not going to want a 5'6 120 pound lady to be your only hope of carrying you back, just think about that.

ifelsedowhile · 2018-04-17T20:35:26+00:00

An alternative to a female draft could be social working or doing logistic works in the military. Only a few women are fit for combat roles.
In the event of a war, women could replace men in doing menial labor like paving roads, garbage collection, constructions etc. They wouldn't be as efficient as men but it would still be something. All my 4 great-grandmothers used to do paesant work that would exhaust any modern white collar guy.

Title	The Draft
Author	ServingSailor
Upvotes	5
Comments	32
Date	April 17, 2018 4:05 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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