The 'Equal Representation' Dilemma

01j · 2013-07-29T19:46:21+00:00

http://owningyourshit.blogspot.com/2012/03/transcript-of-how-feminism-conned.html

And Patriarchy Theory, which posits that men created society in such a way as to oppress women for the benefit of men, means you can blame all of men's problems on...well, on men. When women are oppressed, it is men's fault. When men are oppressed, it's their own fault. Men are in all the positions of power, so if there were any REAL problems for men, those guys would be on it. After all, these guys constructed patriarchy JUST to benefit men at the expense of women, right?

Except there is NO evidence to back this up. There is no evidence to back up the claim that when men are in power they will oppress women for the benefit of all men, or that they even act in men's interests at all. In fact, there is evidence that demonstrates the opposite is true:

A 2004 study of gender differences in automatic in-group bias found that men lack a mechanism that bolsters automatic own-group preference. Only women showed this bias in all four experiments, and in 3 of them, all subjects, male and female, showed a strong bias toward women.

Which is a horrifying thing, to me. Because it shows women in power will act strongly in the interests of women, while men in power exhibit no own-group preference, but will act more often than not in the interests of women instead.

2013-07-29T22:23:18+00:00

If women are over-reprepresented in any segmeent of Society they muist be under-represented in another. The only way for everything to be 50%+ women is for everything to be exactly 50%.

Of course politics are important but so are elementary teachers. You don't see feminists pushing to get less women teachers. The same is true in fields like math. As long as the social Sciences and (to a lesser extent) other fields like Biology have a majority of women there will always be fields where women are a minority. This is inescapeable mathematics.

The only way for women to be 50%+ in all fields without explicitly trying to push women out of many feilds would for men to be forced to be a signifigant minority of the workforce. Or at least forced into the less pretigous jobs. This is, of course, exactly what would make feminists happy.

themountaingoat · 2013-07-29T20:18:29+00:00

The notion that women need equal representation in congress puts the lie to all the bullshit some liberals spew about , 'equality of opportunity'. Because women have equality of opportunity in this sphere -- they made up a slight majority of the population, and there are no legal barriers to entry. Demanding equal representation in congress is about demanding equality of outcomes - something most feminists fervently deny they are after, but also something it's quite clear that they are after.

deepsouthscoundrel · 2013-07-29T19:29:19+00:00

So where do people get the idea that women are 'underrepresented' in politics?

From the fact that the politicians themselves are usually male, not female. Some people believe that there's no way a male politician could ever have the best interest of a woman at heart, even though he's supposed to have the interests of the public at heart (in theory).

bl1y · 2013-07-29T20:43:02+00:00

"The number of female voters has exceeded the number of male voters in every election since 1964." [Rutgers Center for American Women and Politics](www.cawp.rutgers.edu/fast_facts/voters/documents/genderdiff.pdf)

Aaod · 2013-07-30T02:03:39+00:00

Number of voters does not matter and only money/contributions do. This is especially true due to gerrymandering.

Nomenimion · 2013-07-30T00:39:04+00:00

Because women's failure to achieve is instant proof of discrimination against women.

rightsbot · 2013-07-29T19:20:17+00:00

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Pecanpig · 2013-07-29T21:31:40+00:00

You need to remember who is claiming this, micro-brain feminists who don't understand how politics work.

2013-07-29T21:50:14+00:00

Who do politicians represent? They represent those who vote for them.

And those who give them them, and those who control the party they're associated with, and those who have political influence beyond what their one vote would get them. Women may be a majority of voters, but how well are they represented in those other avenues of political influence?

A politician does not represent their gender nor are their actions characterized by their gender.

How do you know? Even if we accept that politicians do what they think the voters want them to do, that idea is going to be filtered through their own experiences.

Title	The 'Equal Representation' Dilemma
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Date	July 29, 2013 7:18 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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