Thoughts, Folks ?

AffectionateSlide400 · 2025-07-29T08:46:47+00:00

Yet more pathologization of the male human being, describing them as dangerous, as threats to the "extra people" (aka women and girls), rather than treating them as you would a lonely person/human. It's a really applaudable thing when you see someone who's marginalized by society due to them being perceived as dangerous, predatory, and unworthy of basic human affection, and then "other" them even further by describing them as all of the above even more. Great thinker, this guy. You can see he's clearly smart by the way he has a finger tapping his head in his profile pic.

Muki47 · 2025-07-29T09:49:22+00:00

These tweets are extremely against mens rights.

First he proposes that men need to be chained down so as to prevent any uprisings against a corrupt system. Which is a tale as old as time, where men are asked to sacrifice over and over but threats if they look for better conditions.

Male loneliness epidemic is being treated as another radical, almost terror-like concept that befalls all men under 40, that makes them scum of the scum, weight on society. They're all loser creeps that don't make enough money because of personal failure. It's definitely not the case that the biggest money theft that happens every day is companies stealing from their workers, that they fuck with the economy any which way they get a chance, curving laws or completely not applying them to get their friends off. But the "loner male guy" is the problem, because he watches porn? And doesn't feel tribalism? Where is tribalism when you have to secure good working conditions for me and good pay? No tribalism when men are struggling in school?

If you look at us to "man up" every time we struggle and then we have to throw our bodies at the hole so the ship doesn't sink then you can fuck off. At that point you need us to play the fool not a tribesman, because you want it both ways, without regard to our wellbeing. But remember, we are the ones that put the enormous energy to "man up", and as such we get to choose where to direct it. All these "Men need to sacrifice themselves for the betterment of society" are a way to get the strong working horse to cut a piece of themselves to feed the very same system it is being abused by.

They're afraid of the "male loneliness epidemic" because it recalibrates the thinking of the male population from "I'm a working horse and I must sacrifice for others" to "I need to put my wellbeing extremely high, because no one else will"

Yeah fuck that guy. It's a huge wound that was dealt by the very same people calling these men radical for not wanting to sacrifice. The lonely man is running on fumes and they want to make sure to exploit as much as they can before even the fumes start running out. The lonely man needs care, not to be demonized. Take care of your wellbeing kings, dont let these exploitative dipshits tell you, you're failing cause you prioritize your wellbeing instead of someone elses.

ElisaSKy · 2025-07-29T08:43:52+00:00

Yes and no.

While the Man With Nothing To Lose is indeed the most dangerous creation of any society (Threats to kill you kind of lose their sting if you have a terminal sickness anyways or don't care whether you live or die, threats to take away stuff you don't have are pretty toothless, and so on), the point where he goes off the rails is the "hating on women" part.

Wake me up when Mark P. Koss shows up and starts saying that only women rape, because Mark P. Koss defines a women being "made to envelop" as Not!Rape and a man being forced to stick his dick in a women as "rape". Somehow, I'm pretty sure that isn't happening, and it ain't happening any time in my lifetime.

Oh, and obviously it only counts if it's a serious claim and NOT a rhetorical gender flip. Some guy saying "gendered definitions result in gendered crime, here is the current gendered definition and the current gendered stats, here's what happens if I gender flip the definitions and... Yeah. Can we ungender the laws and definitions plz?" does not count.

the_1st_inductionist · 2025-07-29T09:05:39+00:00

Some truth, some falsehood. The major issue is that he doesn’t seem to view man as an end in himself, but a means to others. And he seems to oppose man’s right to life, liberty, property and the pursuit of happiness given his opposition to liberalism.

DawnBreak777 · 2025-07-29T09:05:53+00:00

So they are afraid of single men who got nothing to lose? Then maybe they should start catering to single men before they get hurt.

World-Three · 2025-07-29T11:19:56+00:00

I think he could have a better point, but he hammers on men only and men's productive value for society instead of pointing at the world.

Men's issue in and of itself is that they're taught to do what they do, for others. Fast cars muscles luxury big house vacations and etc are typically not for him or just for him. They're for his other. But if there is no other, why do it aside from survival?

If the prize was worth less than what it would cost you to even compete, why would you compete? Simply to win? Society seems to expect people who want to win just for the sake of winning, with no outside benefit to motivate them.

It's just another insult that he's doing the same thing we do with the kids. "Hey, school shootings are bad (they are). Let's ignore the kids who need help, which would prevent it." Men have no outlet, and the monetization of outlets removes the successful feeling of having one. Because you didn't earn it, you wasn't given it, you weren't invited. You paid to get in.

Ok-Consideration8724 · 2025-07-29T10:44:05+00:00

He’s right until the hating on women part.

Terror groups prey on young single men to join them and give them a purpose. So do politicians. This is why the DNC in the US is spend millions on trying to figure out how to talk to men after losing them in the last election. Young men are a huge voting block.
political violence. A lot of the J6ers were older millennials or boomers. Some were married with children. Most had jobs. So wouldn’t say that single men and lost men are the reason for it. Sure you could look at the Trump shooter and see him as fitting nicely into that definition but I think they’re the exception to the rule.
Hating on women. False. Men overwhelmingly state that we need women to run as a society. We need them for reproduction, child growth, and nurturing. I’d say even most “red-pill” would state we need them. We hate feminism as an ideology which tells women they don’t need men. Hate of feminism is not hate of women.

This is why we need to bring back some of the traditional roles in society to help heal this sickness and get young children, not just young men, back on track for a stable society.

kkgmgfn · 2025-07-29T09:35:11+00:00

A man who has nothing to lose can go any extent. Hence dangerous. Look at Punisher.

BasedMoves_76 · 2025-07-29T11:02:35+00:00

That's a very utilitarian way to view it

Remi_cuchulainn · 2025-07-29T13:40:58+00:00

He is not entirely wrong in the likely consequence of what is happening, but is attribution of blame is negative IQ take

Local-Willingness784 · 2025-07-29T15:24:55+00:00

it cool that they are comming mask off about men not being people but problems waiting to happen (or be put down or resolved) but idk, i think that someone who has been knowing women for ages and has been paying attention to the laws and lack of resources for men can already tell.

disappointing but not surprising.

also is disgusting that he is treating gangs as "disgrunted young males" as if there werent a myriad of contradictions and reasons why men do that (pro tip: some of those have to do with protecting and providing for women and families) and not only is ignorant but is also priviledged too, on his fucking ivory tower writting shit for the masses while the rest of men slave away for nothing, hate these fuckers.

Title	Thoughts, Folks ?
Author	Karkota_24Rollno
Upvotes	18
Comments	14
Date	July 29, 2025 8:31 AM UTC (11 months ago)
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