Thoughts on paying for surrogacy and avoiding marriage?

duhhhh · 2023-11-07T21:31:55+00:00

If you have high income, a surrogate and a nanny can be far far far cheaper than a wife. The downside is the lack of emotional attachment for all involved. The upside is the drastically reduced risks. If the nanny is neglectful or abusive towards you or the children you can immediately fire them without spending a year in court and then being forced to give up most of your time with the kids and paying millions of dollars in severance pay.

63daddy · 2023-11-07T21:42:54+00:00

My feelings are mixed. While I’m all for MGTOW, I do think a nuclear family with mother and father is best for raising kids. That said, I certainly know a lot of women who have raised a child without a father so there’s no reason a man can’t do the same.

Whatever you decide, raising a child is a huge responsibility, so do your research and give it a lot of thought.

lumpynose · 2023-11-08T03:58:04+00:00

Gay couples do it. But they have the advantage of two incomes.

EfficientSimplicity · 2023-11-08T07:45:53+00:00

On the one hand, what you’re proposing sounds extreme.

On the other hand, what you’re proposing sounds extremely rational for the majority (>50% of men) in the US because you can avoid: - Family court: the humiliation, stress, and legal fees - Child support - Potentiality of a crazy ex who corrupts your child - Not being able to see your child until they’re 18, have them get turned against you, etc

Plus, if you asked this question on a feminist forum: “I’m a strong independent woman and I’m 37 and I can’t find a man, should I get a sperm donor”, I guarantee that thread will be flooded by yes’s.

You can even have children this way AND continue to date.

Neil Patrick Harris did exactly what you describe.

Here are the potential downsides: - If something happens to you, there is no mother to take care of the child - Single parenting could be lonely and all consuming (tho if you’re rich rich, you can have all the help in the world)

If I were you, I would also explore other options like: - moving to a state with better family law (equal custody, caps on child support) - dating equal and above on the income scale

Bro_with_passport · 2023-11-07T22:55:55+00:00

My personal opinion, your call. But seriously don’t give up on all women just because a western girl fucked you over. If you can afford a surrogate as an option, you can afford to be a passport bro and still give your children a maternal figure.

Plus, you get to choose what your life looks like. You choose where you live, what you do for work, when you retire, your wife won’t have to work, etc.

Your kids will also get the benefits of dual citizenship, learning multiple languages, and growing up in many different cultures.

Biervat2 · 2023-11-07T21:31:10+00:00

a child needs both a mother and a father to become a 'good' adult. Both have their own roles. The child needs a mother untill it's about 10, but certainly can't without untill 10. You just need to make sure to choose a good enough wife who can be depended on not to divorce you and kill contact between you and the child when the father becomes more important at age 10.

You could become financially secure, become one of the passportbro's and at age 30 marry a nice 20 year old asian chick or whatever your preferences are. You need to be very strong to be a single father, better use that time and energy to build yourself up and find an actual woman so there wont be another broken child in this world.

I'd suggest you pick between taking the risk with a woman, or just sucking it up and not having a child, ever.

randyoftheinternet · 2023-11-07T21:29:05+00:00

Adoption ? Ik there's a lot of different laws out there, but you could always check if it's available to you.

Title	Thoughts on paying for surrogacy and avoiding marriage?
Author	leocorleo
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Date	November 7, 2023 9:17 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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