Thoughts on this?

63daddy · 2025-08-17T23:44:19+00:00

She’s trying to muddy the issue. A man has either committed a sexual assault or he hasn’t. The vast majority of men haven’t. This is simply an attempt to draw attention away the fact that most men never assault anyone and aren’t responsible for the minority that do.

I’d be willing to bet that more men than women who witness an assault in action intervene.

NoPopo- · 2025-08-17T23:37:14+00:00

Yeah, she's wrong.

PrivateCupcake22 · 2025-08-17T23:46:19+00:00

propaganda and paranioa bait for single women with no male friends, her self esteem must be low as hell its embarassing to see how low/weak/vulnerable women on social media think of themselves honestly. also this is harmful for mens mental health because it generalises them and makes them feel disliked or used as protection.

Sick-of-you-tbh · 2025-08-18T00:28:16+00:00

Notice how it’s still mostly red according to her, this is just generalization but with extra steps.

Nalyd87 · 2025-08-17T23:41:59+00:00

I belong nowhere on that scale.

AgentKenji8 · 2025-08-18T00:29:31+00:00

Ah yes because men apparently have no self preservation instincts according to that chart and women can never do wrong. Have they ever considered the fact that men value their own life just as much as women value theirs?

TrilIias · 2025-08-18T00:32:45+00:00

This just seems stupid. Is she suggesting that "men who think predation is an unfortunate fact of life" can't also be "heroic men who will intervene?" Why are "men who think predation is an unfortunate fact of life" graded as a sort of light red, as if there's something morally diminished about recognizing reality (it is indeed an unfortunate fact of life)?

MensHour · 2025-08-18T00:55:50+00:00

You could just as easily to a similar chart for women, especially if you include all the child abuse, elder abuse, domestic violence and violence and murder in general that are done by women. And let’s add in abortions.

The real truth is we are the same species. Often women ratify bad men’s actions if they benefit. Dictators and drug dealers have wives and girlfriends but she can always claim she didn’t know he was so bad even when it was obvious.

You only get a real answer to this if you ask a non-sexist question like do people (not just men) ignore or excuse or rationalise violence.

ControlledResults · 2025-08-18T00:52:52+00:00

What ever happened to “innocent until proven guilty”? I’m a man, I don’t rape people, and I understand there is evil in the world. I understand I can only speak on behalf of myself and that I don’t have control over what other men do. What am I supposed to do? Wave posters around until rape completely stops? I don’t have time to do that because rape will never stop and I won’t be able to make any change about it. Instead, I go back to my domain and contribute to society by making sure my house is in order. I don’t have time to give people useless college thesis lectures about “tHe PaTrIaRcHy!” Or any other buzzwords that fly out of a fembot’s mouth. I have my job, everyone else has theirs. Deal with it.

rusty083 · 2025-08-18T02:54:28+00:00

notallmen just means I’m not responsible and have nothing to do with what someone else does. If I’m white and a white woman murders her baby I’m not responsible because we’re both white. If Im straight and some straight person bashed a gay person, I’m not responsible because we’re both straight. If another man violently rapes a woman I’m not responsible because we’re both men. If a Christian or Muslim detonates a bomb killing innocent people that doesn’t make Christians or Muslims collectively responsible. What someone else does is their own responsibility, it has nothing to do with it and I have no greater responsibility to condemn or remedy it than anyone else.

World-Three · 2025-08-18T00:20:14+00:00

I'm somewhere between

Well meaning men who underestimate the issue.
Men who think predation is an unfortunate fact of life.

When you don't actually know what someone wants, you don't know what's enough to give. If you see "Touch a tit, buy a drink" and say nothing to the woman pushing that message, your silence communicates that to certain women, that is okay. And then not that much further down, there are women that say "Just never talk to us, ever."

That bar is moving like the shot bar for Shaq at the free throw line. (In games, Shaq was ASS at free throws, so the bar would move like crazy) So men are doomed to miss these shots, and despite the fact that they've got the same intent every single man who is playing in these conditions has, they're insulted for picking a number between 1 and 100 and hoping it's close enough to the number she wants so she doesn't get pissy about it.

The fact that we can't talk about it is what makes the line so gradient. If we actually had discussion, there would be a clear understanding of these nuanced opinions that are instead resigned to progressive "misogyny" and a graph that displays them all together as if they were just waiting to see their lightsabers eventually turn red.

PHXMEN · 2025-08-18T01:24:22+00:00

Women do not need to be protected by men from other men... that's why there's fire arms

Title	Thoughts on this?
Author	psych_student_84
Upvotes	15
Comments	23
Date	August 17, 2025 11:30 PM UTC (11 months ago)
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