Too much bullshit floating around

xXCptCoolXx · 2013-10-30T22:33:30+00:00

I'm not even sure what you're trying to say for most of that sentence. However, if you're interested in having an actual conversation about these issues then you should provide some evidence for your assertions.

Just claiming that what you're talking about (whatever that may be) is "lies" requires some support.

skinnybignose · 2013-10-30T22:58:31+00:00

What are you actually saying? Female on male rape and MGM should be ignored because you say they're not as bad as the gender reversal?
Feminists keep redefining rape to include drunk sex etc, can't we redefine it to included when a women forces a man to penetrate her? In my country (UK) a women could drug a man with viagra and rohypnol, fuck his unconscious body without his consent AND IT'S NOT RAPE. Is that right? That exact thing happened to a male friend of mine.

EDIT: Spelling

rightsbot · 2013-10-30T21:54:16+00:00

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not_shadowbanned_yet · 2013-10-30T21:57:05+00:00

Circumcision is as bad as female genital mutilation.

The removal of the prepuce in infants is done for religious and cultural reasons, with an aim to decreasing sexual pleasure. It is morally equivalent weather done to males or females, why would it not be?

not_shadowbanned_yet · 2013-10-30T23:34:11+00:00

The most minor form of FGM is a ritualistic pinprick which inflicts pain but removes nothing physically. It is still seen as a human rights violation (which it is).

Nomenimion · 2013-10-31T00:03:30+00:00

Feminism now has a mini-me. It's called the Men's Rights Movement.

Nomenimion · 2013-10-30T23:11:39+00:00

Why not focus on the truth instead? It really is an easier sell

I agree with this, and I think I would agree in general to portions of your post.

But

1) Futrelle, sadly, is widely known and apparently influential. When he lies, when he engages in rape apology, a googleable correction is vital. And yeah, I thought when I read it, and I think now, his post is certainly rape apology, and I understand you think different.

2) I do agree that MRA arguments at times have a self-defeating counter-productive element of "we're the real victims here" to them and that can be seen in some anti-circumcision arguments and some rape arguments.

3) The CDC study seems pretty flawed and the result of a political process. Their definition stinks on ice in a way that is easily understood by any neutral observer IF it has been pointed out. It seems quite reasonable to report the logical failures and contradictions in the report and point out where it seems to have been politicized. The reports own numbers, not MRA logic make rape of a female as bad a problem as the made to penetrate of a man. It seems odd to suggest ignoring that because it makes the argument the report is flawed more difficult.

Title	Too much bullshit floating around
Author	Nomenimion
Upvotes	0
Comments	34
Date	October 30, 2013 9:52 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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